taotrooper: It's a polar bear dancing the hula; your argument is invalid (Magic = alcoholism)
Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2007-04-03 07:08 pm

Your favorite what is WHAT?

Stop. Meta time.

First issue. You know how in CLAMP it looks like almost all adults (with adult bodies, that is) sorcerers (or just people with big powers) drink or is told they enjoy alcohol? Because taking it to consideration, it's a bit silly to say a magician or magical person is an alcoholic just because they're seen drinking a couple of times in canon, or the words "sake" or "booze" appear in their list of interests.

Because okay, yeah, it's quite likely Yuuko does have a problem with her drinking. And Clow could've gone away with it with frequency. But people like Kaho, or even Fay, aren't portraited as perpetual drunkards (especially not now for Fay; I mean pre!Tokyo Fay obviously).

I think that this is just CLAMP's canalizing her taste for booze through their characters way to make their adults more realistic. Or the crack theory: there's something so bad about magic of the sorcery variety in CLAMPverse it drives them to drink XD *see icon*

Besides, sake is used in Shintoist rituals. Kaho was raised in a shrine and worked as a miko. She's canonically able to taste sake a few times a year and enjoy it, without being a drunken whore. Now, there's nothing wrong with assuming a huge love for drinks for fanon, like me making RP!adult!Eriol like his occasional Guiness pints at the local pub, but using it for pepperjack cheese or bashing purpose is a bit too much.

Second issue. I found myself googling kanji for flowers... again. *headdesk*

On one hand, it's cute that both Nakuru and Kaho's favorite flowers have the kanji of moon on them, and they're both white. If you're curious, Kaho's is Oenothera tetraptera and Nakuru's is Epiphyllum oxypetalum.

On the other hand, Spinel's is Papaver somniferum. Which is the opium poppy.

WTF SPINEL. WTF.

[identity profile] kryptyd.livejournal.com 2007-04-03 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
ZOMG Spinel is liek a junkie lolz!

I don't think any of them are alchos. Sure, Yuuko drinks pretty much every day, but so would I if I had magical powers and didn't have to go to work. I still manage to get quite a few in even with work actually so I'm probably not the best judge of these things...

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2007-04-04 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha, I was studying Pharmacology when I first read CCS. I went all WTF SPINEL too. XD (Although I'm more worried about Poppy Pomfrey on the Hogwarts hospital wing, because knowing JKR that's totally on purpose.)

I think the fanon!alcohol is great for humour, and not so great when people start taking it too seriously. Like you said, Yuuko is the only one we know drinks a lot, and there are plenty of hints for Clow (hi, metacanon!). The others, though? Not so much.

And it really bothers me that some people in fandom seem to seriously think that liking a good dring automatically makes you an alcoholic. Um. What.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2007-04-04 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*drink. I'm too lazy to repost the whole thing D:

[identity profile] ayasugi-san.livejournal.com 2007-04-05 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Something random I remembered about Kaho; at least in the manga, she tends to seriously downplay her own magical abilities, at least in the English translation. Just something that might come in useful when fleshing out the fanlisting.

[identity profile] ayasugi-san.livejournal.com 2007-04-05 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not all that WTF when you think about it. Spinel would love anything that could calm him down during a sugar high rampage, and the opium poppy is one of the very best flowers for that...
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-04-06 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Except this is only for manga canon, in which he just dislike sweet food and doesn't have an allergy?