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*stares, jaw dropped*

It's against my religion to choose one, dammit!

Yes, sure, the quiz maker meant TRC to be the correct choice, and I know where it comes from because duh, but... For Cephiro's Mokona's sake, my mind and fingers are unable to process CCS as a fake choice. Because that one does have ties to it too, y'know?

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Also, fandom. The Clow Reed Yuuko met? 99.9% sure it's Teh Clow Reed From The Cards Fame. You know why? Because that one had two guardians called Cerberus and Yue.

Is it too hard to ask for the metacanon to be read before breaking out the cracky TRC/HOLiC theories? ...Oh, right, it is.

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... huh? O_O I'd even add MKR and Gohou Drug to the correct answer. Okay, I miiight let Gohou Drug pass, but not Rayearth. Hi, Mokona!

Also, I think the metacanon is really hard to get and people shouldn't be forced to read it. But in this case that's no excuse, because Yuuko says in the actual canon that she knows Teh Clow Reed who made Sakura's staff.

Mmmm, but MKR is kind of a extend, just as Tokyo Babylon/X for mentioning some young onmyouji she met being emotastic. One of the things about the MKR!Mokona mention is the fact they never mentioned where on the multiverse Clow and Yuuko met it: perhaps Mokona can travel through dimensions the same way it summons people to its. But really, the difference between the links between XXXHOLiC and MKR and TB/X, and the links between CCS and TRC, is that HOLiC is totally unable to alter the former's plots no matter what it happens.

As Clow Reed has the potential to be raped in the butt equally in both current mangas, I'd say the three mangas are linked enough to influence each other.

But the HOLiCverse includes a huge amount of manga happening in its world: HOLiC itself, CCS, TRC in some pages, Gohou Drug, Suki Dakara Suki, Kobato.

About the second thing, I was being sarcastic in the last sentence. But considering how people don't reread canons before pulling the crack, I wouldn't be surprised the staff-and-cards slipped through their mind or they thought there might be TWO Clows who have made staffs for their Sakuras. I mean, if someone can still say seriously that Sakura and Syaoran might be Watanuki's parents and he was brought to the past by someone when they died, when Watanuki actually remembers his father enough to recall his cooking lessons and yet can't recognize familiarity from the TRC ones, I'm not surprised by fans anymore.

... crap, and I forgot that Yuuko knows Subaru and Hokuto! I mentioned MKR becaues I think it does influence the plot, with Yuuko and Clow meeting Mokona. Other stuff like Suki or Kobato aren't really related to it even if they're in the same world, like you said. But MKR!Mokona is pretty important.

People say that Watanuki's... parents... wha??? O____O What the hell, fandom. I'd never seen that one.

What I did see are people going "I hope Watanuki's dad is Eriol! ♥ " Well, I hope he isn't. Because then he'd be DEAD. ¬_¬

I define "link with HOLiC" as "can a cameo or crossover or a mention canon-rape or alter the perceptions of the original canon of that series?" So basically, for me, MKR isn't really that linked even if the crossover is extremely important, while TRC and CCS are linked, and all the other series in that universe -while they have the potentiality- could get linked if CLAMP really wanted to.

Someone mentioned it in a TRC comm, and I didn't have the heart to comment on it. This (http://morgif-kun.livejournal.com/25833.html?style=mine). And hell, it wasn't the first time I saw that, but the time travel thing was... definitely new, to say the least.

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And Dumbledore is really Ron! :D

Hahahahaha XD I meant the first time I saw it in this fandom, but yeah. It made me think of Back to the Future, mostly.

By the way, yeah, sillyness aside let's hope Watanuki's parents are no one we already know. I know I made a lot of theories when it wasn't hip yet, but I'm of the "Watanuki is related to Clow but in another dimension plz" school.

(I'm also of the "if R!Syaoran isn't a relative from another dimension, I'll kick a puppy" school, incidentally. ~~Stupid Fei Wang, giving the OMG-he's-totally-Li-kun!! supporters more arguments last week...~~)

I'm slightly confused. I mean, there was that picture box thing (then one that LJ puts up to say that there is a pic in the post) but when I tried to look at it I can't.

But there is no possible way Clow did not meet Yuuko because someone had to have drunken debates with her about dolphins.

Uh, how odd. Click on the link? It's a screencap of a trivia quiz in Spanish, but it's sort of clear what they're saying.

...Why dolphins? (And now remembered the drunken debates about birds sharpening their beaks in mountains in Good Omens)

I don't know what I think about anyone anymore, heh. But about Watanuki, I like your old theory that he reminded Clow of himself as a kid. I just don't want to guess where canon is going for HOLiC.

I don't want R!Shaoran to be CCS!Shaoran, but I have no idea of what's going on there so I guess I'm expecting the worse. D: I have the feeling that when Tsubasa ends, I'll end up writing only fics where I don't need to mention it at all, so I can pretend it never existed...

Now I can see the image. And I think I understand it if only because of everyone else's comments. xxxHOLiC takes place in the same world as Gohou Drug, which takes place in the same world as Suki, and Kobato, because the fortune-teller lady showed up there, which also occurs in a sort of alternate universe of Chobits ~~and if Watanuki lives in the same apartment as he did when he was little and met Cherry-tree-boy then he lives in the same building as Kobato and Fujimoto~~.

Because I'm on a Neil Gaiman kick. And if they're not debating about dolphins then it's about what colour the Clow staff should be because for ten drunken minutes Clow thought Touya was his successor.

Mmmno, that's not the point. The question was the series linked to XXXHOLiC, and I whined because while TRC is the answer without a doubt, I'm unable to mark CCS as an incorrect question. Then Laurus brought the other crossovers and world-sharing mangas into discussion. And I already mentioned all those series in the thread.

I don't know, man. No matter how drunk Clow is, my characterization is unable to make him hit that level of absent-mindedness. There's no point to discuss the color of a staff or the true successor when that's something he knows as the palm of his right hand. (in what Gaiman novel/comic dolphins are mentiones?)

Oh, LINKED. Well, TRC officially, but you might as well include the whole universe, because xxxHOLiC is the crossover-writer's dream. I think some of the only CLAMP series that don't fit in that world are Chobits, X (because the world hasn't ended--I think xxxHOLiC is sort of the alternate world, where everything didn't go to hell), and some of their more fantasy-type (although a crossover could be put in quite easily).

I think I had once, when he was ten or something, and not quite getting bombarded with visions yet (I also have this thing that he doesn't quite get bombarded with visions until he goes to place that doesn't seal magic ~~Hogwarts' Library or Hogwarts in general or Ollivander's~~ and he goes into a sort of overload because magic seeps into everything, including people) and feeling the need to have an heir centuries after he was born, he got into daddy/mummy's wine and had his first vision (because it was damn potent), which was of Touya pointing out a person with a cracked skull to Sakura, who couldn't see them. He thought it would be nice if that kid had a big staff to protect his baby sister with, but he couldn't decide which colour.

Dolphins are mentioned in Good Omens, just before they argue drunkenly about the bird.

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