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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2006-07-15 07:42 pm

[insert The Sixth Sense quote here]

Some of you might've seen the Tsubasa omake [livejournal.com profile] chibiyuuto found. Translation here. Oh, Mokona. No wonder he gets all offended when they call him manjuu.

Someone was commenting in Yuuto's post how odd it was that TRC!Sakura isn't afraid of ghosts and ghost stories. Now, I have to wonder if this is a part of out-of-characterization plotholes or if it actually has a solid AU character development base.

Because, if you think about it, CCS!Sakura was afraid of ghosts due to Touya. He'd creep her out when she was three years old, telling her about the spirits he could see. That way, an irrational phobia to unknown, untangible things would set on her until her late childhood -and maybe beyond that; we'll never know.

TRC!Clow!Touya can't see ghosts because he lacks those powers in that world. He can't tell those stories. Therefore, there's no way he can scare Sakura out with things he doesn't know by himself. Only Yukito would be able to do that, but he's too nice and polite to do that to a little girl.

And this argument would make beautiful sense except for the fact TRC!Sakura CAN see and hear them. Wouldn't that scare her even a little bit when she was younger? Just seeing things only she, and her brother's friend, and maybe her father could see? That's lame. What, she just stumbled into tree spirits and nice souls? No beheaded ghouls, no poltergeists, no creepy monsters a-la-XXXHOLiC? She just attracts the good spirits, unlike Kimihiro Watanuki's powers which attract *anything*?

I repeat, that's lame if it's true.

And/or there's a chance her father or Yukito explained her she was so speshul she was safe and nobody would hurt her.

*ponders*

In the end, I'm calling AU-OOC and file it on the same folder Syaoran's lack of exaggerated facial expressions is.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't know. Touya wasn't afraid of ghosts in CCS, even if he saw them since he was little. *shrugs* Actually, I think seeing ghosts since they were kids made CCS!Touya and TRC!Sakura used to them, and that's why they aren't scared. Especially because Touya had Nadeshiko to explain things to him, and Sakura probably had her dad or Yukito or someone explain it to her.

Also, when she has to capture Watery (or maybe Illusion?), CCS!Sakura does say that she's scared of ghosts because of the "phobia to the unknown" you mentioned, and that's why she's not so scared of Clow Cards: she knows what they are.

Not everyone is as unlucky as poor Watanuki...
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're right. I guess I didn't think it through enough.

Poor Watanuki indeed. Even early explanations can't save him from ayakashi and assorted monsters.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, my first reaction with TRC!Sakura is always "My Sue-radars are tingling", too. ;P There is so much OOC in that series...

I really want to know what's up with Watanuki's powers. Everyone in the spirit world keeps acting as if he was the Boy Who Lived really famous and/or a yummy treat.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Or BOTH!

That's the bad thing about the manga being always on Watanuki's POV. Why is he famous? Is it because of his family? His powers? His taste? The eating-him-will-make-you-t3h-1337 myth? His relation with Clow? Wait, wrong manga.Or is it a more orthodox explanation, like being the Witch of Dimension's servant/slave/apprentice?

Fuck Himawari's "boyfriend". I want to know THIS.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to know this, too!

But I think those rumours are overrated. I have a hard time believing that CLAMP would just go and spoil something important about the end of the series.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's also my argument against it. Maybe the one who came up with it is a 104 shipper sho wants to get rid of Himawari with the minimal amount of angst?

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, that's a good explanation!

They'll make a second HOLiC movie where Himawari has a boyfriend and Doumeki and Watanuki's kid is the protagonist of a YuGiOh-like plot! And there's Eriol/Tomoyo on the side! And Spinel is a girl ZOMG!!!

... I'm spending too much time in certain forums. *ahem*
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Rayos (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/91715.html?thread=2709315#t2709315)!

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
AAAARGH.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
... igual no me lo voy a creer del todo hasta que no lo vea en la serie. Capaz que no es tan malo como suena.

[identity profile] the-great-elk.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
TRC!Sakura isn't afraid of anything. Why would she be afraid of ghosts?
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
She's too Sueish to be scared. Only 3-dimensional characters are allowed to have fears.

[identity profile] the-great-elk.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean, really... as far as I can tell...

[identity profile] elihice.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Or the king was awfully protective and turned into stuffed sheep every evil spirit that came near his daughter...
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That brings the plotbunny: what if CCS!Eriol teaches that technique to Watanuki?

[identity profile] elihice.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering Watanuki's luck... I imagine that would result in:

a) Mokona interference
b) Scaring Yuuko if he ever masters the evil smile TM
c) Evil stuffed sheep following Watanuki everywhere.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I like c a lot. For the crack potential.

[identity profile] elihice.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It feels kind of canon... instead of a misty-black-smoke following him, it's a herd of stuffed sheep.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That is such a fanart bunny. If only I could draw...
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-15 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. I'd even add randomness, like Mokona riding one of the sheeps, and Doumeki standing there -because sheeps don't get close to him-, and Yuuko facepalming. And of course, Eriol on a tree all LMAO.

[identity profile] elihice.livejournal.com 2006-07-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
...ok this is a pencil doodle, and Yuuko and Eriol are still too hard for me to draw, but...

Image (http://photobucket.com)
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<3<3

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-07-16 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

The girly shepherd stick gives it a great touch.