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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2006-10-05 10:31 am
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The real Sue

In the last couple of days, I've commented at least twice in different places how I feel The Void/Nothing is a canon Mary Sue, and probably the only character in CCS fandom who looks to me like it was taken from the Pit of Voles. She gets canon characters OOC (particularly, Eriol and Clow, because the latter so wouldn't make a deus ex machina card and hide it under his house, and the former so wouldn't forget about it being there after living for months in said house), she pushes romance for the main pairing of the story (hell, she's a plot device for that), she doesn't fit in with the rest of the canon characters of her kind (aka the Cards) until the end, she has speshul pawaas which pwn every other character, she angsts like whoa because she has no friends and nobody loves her, she's forgiven even though she made Sakura's life a living hell and bahleeted half the town, she gets converted into a corny concept card, she's zomg cute...

I mean, just add Evanescence and it'll look like she was created by a fanpoodle instead of Japanese screenwriters. I want to meet one sane CCS fan who would read a fic at FF.net with the movie premise if the movie never existed and the anime series had a different ending (or just the TV one). People just like her because she's canon and ZOMG so lonely woe. If this was a fan character, only fanbrats would be fond of that. Or not? Does any of you like The Void besides being a S+S plot device? Personally, now that I think over the movie again, she just screams "whiny, revengeful attention whore" to me instead of "leik omg kawaii" or "whoa kickass". But that's just my second impression. The first one was "meh" and "WTF" afterwards, if you want to know.

Oh, and out of curiosity, I ran a Litmus test on The Void like it was a fic OC. I got 124. True, the whole cast of CCS is rather speshul, but that's a hell of a score.

[identity profile] sakurak.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I never could decide if I really liked the second movie or not. I mean, there were a few good moments and whatnot, but the whole thing read just like a fanfic (except now with ten times more fluff than the series!). A "new" card that no one noticed before, the play, practically every drawn out S+S scenes (dinner, amusement park, play, even the battle)... =3= The only thing I wondered about in the end was doesn't Yukito already know about Kero? So why freeze up and play doll at the end when they both woke up?
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the Kero thing was stupid, too. I guess screenwriters forgot or were too busy thinking over their fanf-- I mean, the S+S finale. Then again, there are a lot of odd plotholes concerning Kero, and the other one that also got me was how Kero was taken to Hong Kong while Clow was alive (he said in the first movie). It's not the trip itself: How the fuck do you take your huge winged cat to a public market full of people? Either he already had his fake form for those occasions, or Clow had to use Illusion on the whole street.

[personal profile] pleonasm 2006-10-05 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I never thought about it. I haven't watched the movie yet, but I have it waiting for me at home, and when I do I'm going to think about what you have said. It's suspicious. But what can you say? Fluff sells. -.-";;
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is, it's rather convenient the TV ending is so open with no mutual love confessions. I think they planned the movie the whole time in order to make money. But making a high-budget hour-and-a-half movie just for specific pairing fluff is a waste of animation. And this IS a magical girl anime. So we need magical characters and plot devices! That way we can animate fights and shiny stuff! Whatever.

[personal profile] pleonasm 2006-10-05 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely thought the same thing about the tv ending-- what a rip off! I like the manga ending much better.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And she is a bigger Ende rip-off than Emeraude. Don't forget about that. ¬_¬

Sometimes I wonder if I would like the second movie more if I hadn't read the manga first. It was cute, but it didn't make a lot of sense...
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't that mad about it, and I saw it first. So probably not. I was all WTFed at the end and thought I prefered the TV ending than the movie ending.

[identity profile] threeleaf.livejournal.com 2006-10-05 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting...
Still, I like more the first movie :D
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-10-06 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
So do I.

[identity profile] yaired.livejournal.com 2006-10-06 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Eso de dejar el final "abierto" sin declaración de amor correspondido por todo lo alto, a mi si que me parece descarado y planeado bajo la premisa de sacar dinero. En su momento escuche comentarios sobre lo mucho que la treta se parecía al final de Evangelion y estoy de acuerdo -___-U

Eso si, que bonita quedo la canción de "Ashita e no Melodii" al final... no será un exitazo de Evanescence, pero me gusta bastante :P. Sigo pensando que pudieron haber dado un poquito más de fanservice coff*toya/yuki*coff*
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-10-06 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Madhouse: Son como Gainax, in a way. Y eso también me suena a lo que hizo Bones con Fullmetal Alchemist recientemente, así que el truco no es viejo.

Pero Ashita e no Merodii es una canción alegre que grita al mundo lo maravilloso que es al amor! No concuerda con la oscuridad que ahoga el corazón de la ultrajada Vacío!!!

No hubo suficiente Touyuki! Razón #2, #3 y #4 para gustarme más la primera peli. Dos palabras: trajes chinos.