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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2006-11-28 10:47 am
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You can tell I don't want to work...

How it works:
1. Ask me one fandom-related question in the comments. This can be fandom specific, general, or about fandom/lj stuff/fic writing/etc. in general. Any fandom of mine.
2. Just one question, please, but it can (and perhaps should) have sub-parts. (Nah, ask what you want.)
3. That's it. It can be as normal or odd as you like.

[identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
How do you think Clow & company compare to Eriol and company, in your opinion? And, do Clow & his derivative(s) just really like magically creating stuffed-toy animals WAY too much? ;P
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Crossover / Indy Aang)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Define derivative(s). I have "derivatives" as the group of creatures, descendants, alter versions, and reincarnations; so basically anyone sharing a piece of magic or DNA from Teh Clowz is valid. Therefore, the answer is no, as only Classic Coca-cola and the tiny can of Coke have developed an interest in creating pretty creatures, plushie-looking or not.

I think Clow just likes cute, fat animals to hug, squeeze, and call them George (well, not George, but he still names them.) Eriol got the half with that trait. Guardians and Mokonas are better than real animals as in they wouldn't die from overfeeding and can talk back at you.

About the comparison, you'll have to be a bit more specific as I could make a fatass, post-worthy rant on every aspect. So tell me what you want to hear or it'll be long. Also, do you consider Yuuko + Mokonas as a temporary part of the Clow-tachi? How about Kaho in the Eriol-tachi?

[identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
Good answer. I was mostly joking with that question. ;)

(a) Rant away: Clow-tachi versus Eriol-tachi. (b) Yes to Yuuko, Mokonas, & Kaho. :P
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
But... D: You still haven't answered me: versus in what sense? In a fight-to-death situation if it was even physically possible? In a magic duel? In a cooking battle? Participating in a variety contest on a TV show?

Or do you just want a biased spot-the-differences kinda thing or something? You lost me.

[identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
COOKING BATTLE. *_*
Um, no, only joking. seriously, which do your prefer (or perhaps, which do you think works better as a "family/team") - Clow-tachi or Eriol-tachi, and why?
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-11-29 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
ERIOL > CLOW AT COOKING. Because he has Clow's experience + about 30 more years. Yay accumulation!

Ummmmm. I love both groups (three if we take Yuuko + Mokonas + Clow-tachi =/= original Clow-tachi). But let's see, currently I'm more emotionally attached to the Eriol-tachi because my fandom experiences are more related to them (fics? check. icons? check. websites? check. RP? check. and so on). I still adore the Clow-tachi (original or HOLiC-ed) since I love all its members to pieces, and reading/writing Clow+Yuuko with cameos of the guardians and Mokonas, fanon or meta-canon, is the shit.

Now, about which one works better as a team or a family... well, we don't know enough data about the original Clow-tachi so their interactions are pretty much fanon, and with this every person has their own interpretation. Personally I imagine them as a slightly more dysfunctional version of the Eriol-tachi plus the cards, so my version is one of the light ones. Obviously, a Clow/Yue shipper won't picture them the same way I do.

And if we add Yuuko and the Mokonas, it all gets angstier because we know it's not going to be permanent, and they probably kinda separated ways after Soel and Larg were sealed.

In my opinion, whatever Clow-tachi version one chooses, Eriol-tachi gives more of a feeling (or at least the illusion) of a family/team, in the fact they're less people and Eriol can attend his guardians better with no cards of his own or interdimensional business to worry about. There's also the lack of ambiguity: we DO know there's a fat chance Eriol and Ruby/Nakuru had anything that's not parent-child going on if they're taken IC, so that makes them more familiar than Clow-tachi, in which who knows what was up with Clow and Yue. There's also Spinel, who can figure Eriol out without him being told about the sekrit planz. So I don't know, they look so close even though they have lived together for such a short time compared to Clow and his guardians.

Probably if we had more pure Clow-tachi canon I would have a different opinion, but from what we know for sure they look more as a team to me.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
About Princess Tutu and writing... When you write (in general), are you more like Drosselmeyer or Fakir? Bits of both? Something completely different? Yes, I know it's a weird question. ^_^
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It was spawned by this icon, wasn't it

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I'm anything like Drosselmeyer; I enjoy comedy and silliness too much, and I like my characters to be somehow fine or to enjoy in my plots sometimes. It doesn't mean I don't prepare shit for them when I'm doing original fic, but it isn't for tragedy or angst's sake. It's just to put them in the place where they should be, and I like to think they go on with their lives afterwards (I don't believe in pure happy endings, but in as-happy-as-they-can-be endings)

I'm probably more like Fakir in the fact I rack my brains too much before starting stuff; then it tends to go smoother -unless I get a writer's block. I don't ask the characters to do the impossible, not even when they're major Sues/Stus; things should never be that easy. However, I'm myself, and I'm not sure I have anything in common with him besides that (then again, I watched that anime in like two days and I almost forgot what's his style like, if he even has one)

Of course :P

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting!

I like my characters to be somehow fine or to enjoy in my plots sometimes

I'm the same about that. Even if I'm more of the Drosselmeyer type in certain aspects (insert Evil Author Laughter here), it's difficult to hurt my characters. That's why I chose a happy story for NaNo, I knew I'd get blocked if there was too much angst...

[identity profile] hamsterfactor.livejournal.com 2006-11-28 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me see. What are your thoughts on One Piece right now? Just a quick review, be it character-wise, plot-wise... your call. I'm just curious, don't be afraid to hurt my very fragile feelings xD;

Also, what's with the Death Note trend of doom? Can it be stopped? Please?
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Crossover / Luke; he comes to town)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-11-30 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
One Piece starts kinda slow, but the more you read and the more nakama are introduced, the more hooked you get. This manga won in the fact it's one of the few series that made me laugh AND cry at the same time. You wouldn't believe a story about batshit crazy pirates could be so moving, and yet... The characters are pretty cool, even though the amount of rivals/enemies entering and exiting is a bit overwhelming (I have to learn gazillion names again? D: Damn you, shounen mangas), almost in a Kubo kind of way -except way better written, of course.

So I'm glad you pushed me towards it, even if the first couple of volumes and the length turned me off a lot. I needed more smart shounen to follow these days. As soon was I get the work do tomorrow off me, I'll be finishing Skypiea.