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taotrooper) wrote2007-09-13 10:35 am
taotrooper) wrote2007-09-13 10:35 am
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Overthinking runes again, part 1
Honesty meme. You can post anonymous if you want?
And thank God I saw someone wrote XXXHOLiC/Bakeneko crossover. One less wanting to do immediately. But if we ever hear about the Medicine Seller's backstory? FEAR. I'm sure I'll come up with something.
So, I mentioned I have my runes back here, and that I found the handbook. (First off, I'm not a pagan or a wiccan, but I love consulting oracles. I also do I Ching. Tarot is a funny case because that one hates me and won't answer me and confuses me the fuck out of me. But I like the idea of oracles. I blame it on my mother. The thing with astrology was on my own, but she was the one getting all the fortune-telling crap and letting me use it. Whether they work or Jung was right, I don't care. It's fun to consult.)
...I think I went offtopic. So I have my book here, and I went to check what they said about Sowilo and Laguz. You know, the runes Mokona Modoki have on their earrings? I've talked about it once, ages ago. So here's another source, and let's try to link it to the CLAMPverse.
Mmm, in Tsubasa terms... it's more like the opposite is happening, yes? The whole theme is focused on someone losing her vitality, and they're trying to regain it (they mean lots of people and lot of purposes). And the main characters keep losing their power with everyangstbulance arc. Of course, it might be meaning the manga's finale, when Sakura's power is restored, and FWR tries to use it. I find the word 'creation' interesting, since there are several artificial/man-created beings in Tsubasa.
With the other interpretation of the rune I had found, I linked it to c!Syaoran. Of course, it was pre-Tokyo. Now it doesn't fit him, although he still is interested in collecting that supreme energy O_o
There's also this idea gnawing me that Clow expected the rune to be positively influencing the main characters. But as Soel's cheerful role gets eaten by angst and plot devices and shock value... I think it might not be working, dear :/
WTF Clow? Well, this week Soel showed more violent moves (and it CAME FROM THE PENDANT) so it's not so far-fetched, but... yeah. It could be funny if Mokona pulls the deus ex machina to end FWR.
The other part says that the power can't be used lightly. And if you use it for evil or stupid purposes, it will bounce at you and bring, well, DOOM. Like, destruction and tragedies and ruin. I'm NOT making this shit up, that's what the text says!
So, in conclusion: a) don't manipulate Soel's powers for evil, and b) ...MORE DOOM? We have enough destruction and tragedies already O_ô
And as crazy as it is to talk about runic magic in a divination book, my mind goes back to the Nazis (not in a Godwin sense, mind you). I mean, they did use Sowilo for evil. And well, it brought doom and destruction to our world indeed. Is that a coincidence? I'm wondering if this has a point and runes do have this esoteric power, or if the author made the last part up.
I'll do Laguz/XXXHOLiC in another post.
And thank God I saw someone wrote XXXHOLiC/Bakeneko crossover. One less wanting to do immediately. But if we ever hear about the Medicine Seller's backstory? FEAR. I'm sure I'll come up with something.
So, I mentioned I have my runes back here, and that I found the handbook. (First off, I'm not a pagan or a wiccan, but I love consulting oracles. I also do I Ching. Tarot is a funny case because that one hates me and won't answer me and confuses me the fuck out of me. But I like the idea of oracles. I blame it on my mother. The thing with astrology was on my own, but she was the one getting all the fortune-telling crap and letting me use it. Whether they work or Jung was right, I don't care. It's fun to consult.)
...I think I went offtopic. So I have my book here, and I went to check what they said about Sowilo and Laguz. You know, the runes Mokona Modoki have on their earrings? I've talked about it once, ages ago. So here's another source, and let's try to link it to the CLAMPverse.
On Sowilo
Ésta es una runa de gran poder. Carece de posición invertida. Representa la energía solar y la irradiación de sus rayos.[...]Nothing new here. It represents the sun and its energy, it's powerful shit. The usual. Then they go on about Thor and the Nazis like every time someone talks about that rune. Whatever.
Esta runa de poder irradiante pone a su disposición la vitalidad celular y la regeneración energética. Es preciso obrar cautelosamente si está experimentando un oleaje de impulsos vitales. Tal vez está pasando por un momento de gran creación en todo sentido, y la luz irrumpe en su vida, iluminando zonas jamás reconocidas ni explotadas. No sea por ello arrogante y haga buen uso de su poder creador. El guerrero espiritual sabe retenerse y, si es preciso, emprenderá la retirada en pleno vigor del combate. La totalidad se alcanza al sintonizarse espiritualmente con la energía suprema.Um, so... to sum it up, it means there's a lot of energy and vitality, and that you're in a moment of creation or exploiting unknown areas of yourself. So you should use this energy well without being arrogant. And also, a fine warrior knows when to back away.
Mmm, in Tsubasa terms... it's more like the opposite is happening, yes? The whole theme is focused on someone losing her vitality, and they're trying to regain it (they mean lots of people and lot of purposes). And the main characters keep losing their power with every
With the other interpretation of the rune I had found, I linked it to c!Syaoran. Of course, it was pre-Tokyo. Now it doesn't fit him, although he still is interested in collecting that supreme energy O_o
There's also this idea gnawing me that Clow expected the rune to be positively influencing the main characters. But as Soel's cheerful role gets eaten by angst and plot devices and shock value... I think it might not be working, dear :/
Sigel representa la espada justiciera, el castigo de los dioses. Es también la espada del divino verbo la que atraviesa como un rayo de luz al dragón, expresión telúrico-celeste de las fuerzas ocultas que gobiernan al ser, monstruo de simbología compleja, que sólo puede ser derrotado por el espíritu sabio, por el héroe de corazón puro.Eeeeeh, I'm not touching this one. It sounds like whoever wrote this was too fond of the Nibelungs. I'm so not going to theorize who/what might be the vengeance sword, the dragon, the wise spirit (in Tsubasa, wise people?! ahahahaha!), or the pure-hearted hero (but I'm getting the feeling it'd have to be Sakura because it's the obvious choice).
La línea de los cultos solares proviene de la India arya, siendo Surya-deva la primigenia deidad... [blahblahblah more Brahmanism], versificaciones sagradas proferidas [blahblah] por los brahmanas, "los dos veces nacidos", quienes han recibido... [blahblahblah]Okay, this has nothing to do with anything, but I was all "......Clow? Eriol?" while skimming through that text, because it was talking about Brahman priests who are "the twice born" or some weird shit. But it has nothing to do, so moving on!
En la magia, la runa Sigel se utiliza para la destrucción del enemigo y de las fuerzas oscuras. Su acción es muy ofensiva como instrumento en los rituales de castigo. Es tal su poder, que empleado en extremo sentido maligno puede revertirse, ocasionando la ruina total y las mayores tragedias. No es posible quedar impune al manipular indebidamente esta runa. La abyecta liberación de las energías poderosas de Sigel, puede degenerar en la absoluta destrucción. Esta sentencia ocular debe ser cuidadosamente considerada....Okay. How to say this. (The text itself sounds sort of batshit in a modern setting.) In magic, it's supposedly used to destroy your enemy and the dark forces. So it's often handled for offense or for punishment.
The other part says that the power can't be used lightly. And if you use it for evil or stupid purposes, it will bounce at you and bring, well, DOOM. Like, destruction and tragedies and ruin. I'm NOT making this shit up, that's what the text says!
So, in conclusion: a) don't manipulate Soel's powers for evil, and b) ...MORE DOOM? We have enough destruction and tragedies already O_ô
And as crazy as it is to talk about runic magic in a divination book, my mind goes back to the Nazis (not in a Godwin sense, mind you). I mean, they did use Sowilo for evil. And well, it brought doom and destruction to our world indeed. Is that a coincidence? I'm wondering if this has a point and runes do have this esoteric power, or if the author made the last part up.
I'll do Laguz/XXXHOLiC in another post.
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Um, not much to say here because I know nothing about runes and stuff. But I really enjoy reading your theories. :D
It's certainly interesting, even if I don't know how much CLAMP is going to use... Some parts of it really sound as if they're basing stuff off this kind of knowledge, which wouldn't surprise me because they've done it before. But they're more of a mix-and-match bunch so who knows? They might just take the parts that go well with what they want to happen... which is what most of us writers do, really. ;P Nothing wrong with that as long as you aren't specifically basing your story on something.
or the pure-hearted hero (but I'm getting the feeling it'd have to be Sakura because it's the obvious choice)
Well... yes? She is the main character. I'm not particularly fond of her in TRC, you know that, but if she wasn't the pure-hearted hero in the end then it wouldn't make sense.
It could be funny if Mokona pulls the deus ex machina to end FWR.
That would be awesome XD
Too lazy to switch accounts...
But don't get me wrong. I like references to myths and obscure shit without following anything. I mean, I have a fandom with fucking wolf as a sun goddess' avatar, and another with the god of chaos and deceive playing detective AND magical girl. Like I care about that :DDD
Actually, I much prefer Shin Shunkaden to the original legend.So I'm not criticizing CLAMP or expecting anything to be more than it is.About Sakura: At the beginning it was more hinted that Syaoran was the main character, so that's why I was saying that. Right now I have NO fucking idea for obvious reasons. Now I'm interpreting the rune to be more fitting to Sakura and/or the Reeds' plans than to any Syaoran out there.
Mokona as deus ex machina would seriously rock my socks, even if it ends being "rocks fall, everyone
but not the HOLiC people ;___;(who was important) dies!" I mean, it'd be extremely mean for Soel, and it'd open plotholes the size of Tokyo Tower, but the wanks would be glorious and it's still less painful to watch than the current plotline.Re: Too lazy to switch accounts...
Hee, I know the feeling! XD
... oh, I didn't think you were criticizing CLAMP, sorry if it sounded that way. :/ I just meant it's not easy to figure out what they're going to do because they take stuff from many different sources.
When the whole thing is over Soel is going to need TONS of ice cream. D:
And now I want them to explain what Larg's earring does! It shouldn't be so flashy, though, because it's a seal. Hmmm. Let's just hope we don't find out with "ooops it failed, run for your life Watanuki!" DDD:
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