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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2008-10-30 09:05 am
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Would you choose water over wine?

1. Interesting question in our English class. Let's suppose you're in a car with your best friend, who's driving. You're on the copilot seat. You're in a 40 Km/h zone, but your friend is going 45. Then in a crosswalk, they almost hit a pedestrian because of the excess of speed. After the fright, a policeman is interrogating you all, and since you'd be the witness, he asks you if the driver was driving over the speed limit. Again, remember it was your friend's fault and not the pedestrian.

[Poll #1287797]

They asked this simple question in about 70 countries in a research about honesty. The lowest rank in telling the truth were Spanish-speaking countries, funny yet reasonably enough. He asked us which one we thought would be the highest, and several people said Germany. And it was, it was, with Norse countries like Finland as runner ups. (Suddenly, the Klavier-Gavin-studied-in-Germany fanon made SO much sense, let me tell you. Ignore Franziska, she's a special snowflake.) Don't ask me about other countries because those were the ones the teacher mentioned (plus Ireland, since he's Irish: they ranked like 8th or something, which he found really WTF)

2. Man, I suddenly felt nostalgic about diskettes. Does anyone else remember those huge 5¼ floppy diskettes? Guys, our first computer had like no memory, and the OS (MS-DOS!) was loaded from one of us, just like every other software. And data was stored there, too. And the screen only had two colors! I tell you, it was a shock to see a computer running on Windows for the first time, when I was on 8th grade. OMGWTF A MOUSE. Tiny diskettes!

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
If a friend of mine almost hit someone, then yes, of course I'd testify against them.

[identity profile] kryptyd.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
I answered number 3. Boring but true.

I agree with your teacher's reaction of WTF. There is a massive culture of not being a "rat" here. It doesn't matter how bad the thing the person did was (seriously, imagine something terrible) but for a lot of people speaking to the police is considered worse. I know people who have been driven from their homes by threats and "rats out" graffiti simply for having a nice looking house, because OF COURSE the person who takes pride in their house must be the neighbourhood rat! I find this awful myself and tell my friends off when they start making rat comments.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, that sounds nasty D:

The professor's reasons for WTF were because he thought you guys valued friendship over honesty. Then again, he's been living abroad for years so maybe he doesn't know about the anti-"rat" mentality.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
But I don't really know what I would do in situ.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Me neither. I'd say it depends of the circumstances (I mean, if the person was badly injured I wouldn't want to lie, but this situation described wasn't exactly alarming), but... honestly, I'm never looking at the meter or the gas/petrol tank. I'm the kind of partner who's usually glancing at the window and shit. I'd have no fucking clue, so no moral dilemma!

[identity profile] woodburner.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well it depends. I personally don't think a measly 5 miles an hour over the limit would be enough to actually cause an accident. It seems to me the only way my friend could have caused the accident in that case would be if he wasn't watching the road properly. In which case I am not sure what I would do, tbh. But if the only thing my friend had been doing was going 5 miles over the limit? I'd just say I wasn't looking at the speedometer.

(It would actually probably be true, I mean, I don't look at the speedometer when I'm not driving.)

eta: wait you said km. That is only 3 miles over the limit! You could easily be driving that just because your speedometer wasn't perfectly exact!

eta2: I meant when I'm not driving, l-lol.
Edited 2008-10-30 09:44 (UTC)
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I found the situation to be too mild to be a ground-breaking moral dilemma (if the pedestrian had broken a bone or the friend was going over 60 would add more conflict, but then it would've been more obvious who was at fault and maybe they wouldn't be asking you)

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
My cousins (12 years old, btw) had a hard time believing me when I told them I used diskettes, I remembered all-yellow screens and I got excited when my dad first got a mouse. Which was kind of depressing. XD
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
My mom got a personal computer for our home on... 1989, I think. And people were all "WTF why?? what the hell do you want a computer for?!" and thought she was nuts. Like if it was a writing machine with a screen. Now looking back it's ~*LOL visionary*~ except in the fact we kept that junk for years and thus my jaw dropped when I saw a GUI with colors for the first time, and a system that booted itself and loaded programs with no diskette.

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
If my friend actually hit someone I would probably tell the truth. If they were just being accused of speeding but no one else got hurt I would probably say I was not looking.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Es que están criados de esa manera. Están como que hechos para cumplir las reglas :'D

Yo nunca tuve de esas :D; Osea, si jugaba con esas o en la oficina o en la casa de una amiga, pero fui una de las úuuuuultimas en tener computadora en casa.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Los alemanes? No Franziska Von Karma, tho. Por otra parte, dudo que ella tenga muchos amigos O_o

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ayup. Los europeos en general, se supone, pero los alemanes sobre todo. Lugar apropiado para estudiar leyes es apropiado.



Claro que siempre va a haber excepciones :'D
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
N-no los países mediterráneos :'D España e Italia y ésos son como speshul.

AceAttorney!Alemania es exageradísima XD Digo, graduaron a alguien a los 13 años de fiscal.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Y por eso se supone 8D; Pero digo, a comparación de otros continentes, Europa, junto con Asia son como que muy cumplidos.

O eso fue lo que me metió en la cabeza estudiar tanto sobre la Unión Europa D|;

Los niños prodigios de hoy en día 8( Pudo ser que uno de los que desarrollaron el juego era alemán y quería diseñar Alemania como la concibe? :D; */random*



Mejor sigo haciendo mi tareita <.<'
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
...Esto, Sha, que el juego era originalmente japonés. La cosa es que mandaban a los niños a estudiar a USA en el original, y si localizas el juego para que todo sea americano... claro, la única potencia lejana a la que le pegaba el rol era Deutschland.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Por eso dije lo último D|; *se va con su tarea*

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Random random random: sino mira su estructura gramatical. La lengua dice mucho sobre una cultura |D */momento geek*
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
...Aún no he visto gramática, silly.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Objeción! 8o

...Bueno, el punto es que todo tiene posición en la oración, so.
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[personal profile] solesakuma 2008-10-31 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yo *creo* que lo diría pero la situación es tan LOL para un argentino (la mayoría de la gente anda a 60 km/h en zonas de 40 km/h y ni hablar en las rutas) que, bueno.

Igual, yo creo que nuestra versión del "NAKAMA ANTE TODO" y la cosa alemana de "LAW & ORDER" son pura exageración ambas.

[identity profile] paper-seagulls.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of what if's in that question!

Wait, let me convert that to american.
Doing 30 in a 25 zone... crosswalks... dude, that doesn't make much of a difference because of speed and I doubt it would've been sighted!

Question moot!

Also, most people wouldn't know or notice, what a terrible example!

I have apple iie nostalgia now. Time to play some Zork.