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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2005-02-22 12:55 pm
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CLAMP pics and pagan theology

[livejournal.com profile] chibiyuuto, and anyone interested, CLAMP Kingdom got bigger pictures of the Kamui/Kobato/Kimihiro/Hokuto thingie! Yaaaaay! Sadly, they're got an ugly watermark (it's small, but still, it's ugly). They also got the Kiseki covers and the Kobato/Ashura/Atashi card.
Just click on the watermelon, and go to the galleries with a "new" gif besides the link.

After a lot of stupid thinking, I just concluded there are just four characters in CLAMPverse that could ascend to the category of "gods"; meaning "gods" as beings that have gone through the process of creation, be it worlds, living beings, artifacts, fetishes... and by that, modifying the destiny and/or ways of life of many in one or more worlds.

The number seems accurate, as there are four mangakas in CLAMP.

So, this is my Mount Olymp:

Mokona: as in the white, fluffy animal that says "puu", not the mangaka. God/goddess (it's asexual, isn't it? ô_o) of dimensions and travelling. It pwns them all.

Ichiro Mihara: as in the mastermind behind angels and persocons. God of science, technology, mechanics, harassment, and comedy relief.

Clow Reed: (oh, come on, you saw him coming!) as in the Master of Cards. God of magic, knowledge, wisdom, philosophy, writing, cooking and rice wine.

Yuuko Ichihara: (well duh!) as in the Witch of Dimension. Goddess of magic, commerce, beauty, sex, feminity, fashion and rice wine.

Yes, I am insane.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting.

What about Sakura ? And you count Eriol with Clow ?

What about characters who succeeded in going against destiny ? (Kujaku)

[identity profile] flowright.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
if you list kujaku you had to list Taishakuten ! or ashura o (because ashura o is so great in everything that he belongs to every list ^_^)
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I have a net preference with Kujaku. I think Kujaku, Touya and Yuuko are my all time favourite Clamp characters *cough* However even though Taishaku-ten was pretty powerful (and has the status of a god like many others in RG Veda) he never did succeed in what he was trying to do.
Ashura-O is pretty, but he failed too. It's okay, they'll meet again at the Clamp Campus Library, and Kujaku is reincarnated into that Inomoyama guy in Combination. Just like Yasha-Ou is really Fuuma and Ashura is really Kamui. (<- has too many weird reincarnation theories about RG Veda)

[identity profile] flowright.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
> (<- has too many weird reincarnation theories about RG Veda)

you know it's official rgveda character reincarnated in clamp campus teachers don't you ? *hugs my shoten6*

> he never did succeed in what he was trying to do

Well Ashura survive and also the world so he kind of succeed ^_^

> Ashura-O is pretty, but he failed too

wanted a child, had one....
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
yeah I know. I think that's why I did the other ones.

... You actually *own* a shoten volume ? *whistles in admiration*

Well Ashura survive and also the world so he kind of succeed ^_^

Not thanks to him !

[identity profile] flowright.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
**hijacking hiragizawa entry*

... You actually *own* a shoten volume ? *whistles in admiration*

A friend of mine actually owns 3 of them and all the clamp news I'm just green of jealousy everytime I visit him.

but I really love mine (I realize I had it for a really cheap price when I'm looking at ebay) my favorite part has to be Seishirou giving a ring to subaru.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
**hijacks-hijacks**

I bet !

*swoons* I want to see ! I want to see !

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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, I'm considering CREATION gods. Nobody you mention created anything.

If I were to mention any god, I'd have to include a lot of RG Veda people I don't know.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Sakura create two cards ?

Didn't Eriol create Ruby Moon and Spinel Sun ?
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
That's anime canon. She didn't create a thing in manga.

But his creation just affects himself, Spinel and Ruby. He's... a minor deity. Yes. And I'm his shrine's maiden *^o^*
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
shrine maiden XDD sounds kinky !
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
ne... how do you count Suu ? There's so many weird things in Clover
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Suu... hmmm, she didn't create anything, so... a titan, like Sakura is. Yep.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know i always felt like she would have the power to change the world if she wanted. But Clover always gives me that impression of virtual reality which was made even more explicit when we reached the Faery Park in Tsubasa.

[identity profile] flowright.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
usagi in wish is quite powerful too ? (I remember they all freak out when Shuishiro caught one)

and the mysterious piffle princess creator (who has to have mystic power.... come one that cuteness is unnatural ^_^)
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
But Usyagi didn't create anything. I'm limiting to creating "gods", but defining "creation" as something big that affects and creates life. Piffle Princess creator isn't affecting anyone's karma.

[identity profile] flowright.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
> Piffle Princess creator isn't affecting anyone's karma.

so you say !!! XDXD

I don't know if it's a translation mistake but in the french verison Icchan is piffle princess main manager, it does not mean he created the brand, but I always thought he was managing a family business from his mother or grand mother (he shares the same name with Chiharu from CCS)
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
If I really went ahead a created a clamp essay community, would you be willing to co-mod with me ?
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Togakushi Shrine is more a fic challenge community. And it's only about X/1999. Since the Discussions things didn't work too much well lately, but some people still seemed to be interested I've been thinking about making a global clamp community for this kind of discussions... and I'm glad you would ! ^^
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
no you're not you do a great job at clamp_rating. But that's okay, I'll find another victim co-mod
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
eeep, yeap i know it's clamp_claims, but my mind not work today... O_o and i think you underestimate yourself

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Might be the Ende (or Gaarder?) fan in me, but I still find it creepy that they used one of their pseudonyms to name the character that suddenly went "HA! I created you all! *pwns*" o.O

[identity profile] chibiyuuto.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for the tip! I visited that site very often, but lately it was not working, but now it is! Thank you!! ^__^

[identity profile] su-chan.livejournal.com 2005-02-22 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Gracias por el link le ehcare un vistazo mas tarde XDD y a mi esos 4 no me parecen tan mal, pero claro todo el mundo tiene sus favoritos que querria ver convertidos en dioses XDDD