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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2005-04-22 11:30 pm
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Weeeeeeh

I swear, I close my eyes, and get to see drawn eyes, old Mokona style. But the point is, I finished reading RG Veda yesterday, and Magic Knight Rayearth today.

... yes, I AM crazy.

Wow.

Just wow.

How come the same people who did this amazing story with such a detailed drawing ended up doing something like Tsubasa?! It's insane! I can't believe it; things like that make me understand why people says they're getting worse with the years. This level of brain-breaking is just... I hadn't experience something like this since the older days I was reading X and TB spoilers. I don't think they'll ever get to do something as complex as this again until they finish Tsubasa, that is.

Oh man. I missed the tragic Angst and the impending Doom so much!

Let's see. I didn't really care about Ashura, Yasha, Ashura-ou, Taishakuten... you know, I'm a sucker for smaller characters. I loved the rest of the six stars, though. Yes, even Kendappa-oh, who was so dual and did such a terrible thing (yet pretty! I think she's one of the most pretty CLAMP female I've seen.) Souma was so cool. Karura-oh rocked so much (I want a bird like that!). Ryu-oh was such a funny boy. I was really crushed when they were killed. And wow, Souma/Kendappa's deaths were so tragic! Somehow, I was thinking about Seishirou and Subaru in the Rainbow Bridge the whole time. Dammit, no wonder they became my OTP in RGV. I'm a masochistic.

I knew he was going to be my favorite waaaay before I read the manga. But I never knew he'd be so cute and awesome! Oh, Kujaku! How I love you! He was the best thing about the manga. But I wonder, WHYYYYY! Why, Kujaku, did you have to do that at the eeeeeeend! That's so unfair ;_; Baka!

Oh, and after Kujaku, I also liked Tenou soooo much! He's adorable! And so bloody normal for that kind of manga, I must say. Yep.

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Magic Knight Rayearth. I loved it, too! The manga is waaaay better than the anime. I liked the fact certain character who I really liked and died in the anime was always alive in the manga. So no need to fill the character up with a substitute.

I also liked the fact there was no Evil Sue OC. That way, the story is clearer and easier. There was no real need for that in anime.

And Guru Clef? Still my favorite character ♥

I'm surprised that apart from the obvious canon couples (Zagato/Emeraulde, Ferio/Fuu), the other "ships" I heard a lot about were absent. I don't know if I mixed the fanon and thought it was canon, or it was an anime thing [I didn't watch the second half.] So really, Clef is not a heartrob who has a lot of females drooling over him, lol. This is the last time I trust stupid people posting on boards. And the fact there's not a canon Lantis/anyone is amazing. Again, I'm not hearing fangirls, again.

I'm surprised I've never heard about Lafarga/Caldina before. And the ironic part is, it IS canon! Unbelievable. It was a nice surprise, though.

And see how irony also hits me, because after so many time thinking Clef/Umi were cute, I changed my mind after reading the manga. Dude, Clef/Presea all the way! And here's were I bang my head against the wall, because they're how Eriol/Kaho could be, if Kaho weren't such a cold whore. And, you know, if Clef made some move on her or something.

So yeah, I like the two main canon pairings, but for some reason C/P appeals more to me. Go figure. I'm not trying to seek the logic here.

I'll post memes tomorrow. You can poke the bunny on the mean time.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
RG Veda, YES, YES it's lovely, isn't it ?

Kendappa-Ou and Sohma are such a strange couple, so much like Seishirou and Subaru in some ways, indeed, and yet very different. I think in some way Kendappa is more like Fuuma than like Seishirou - they have the same idea about killing the one they love.
And yes, she's beautiful.

I do like Arura-Ou a great deal, she reminds me of Arashi. (Or Arashi reminds me of her... heh)

Ryu-ou's death was the one that crushed me the most of all of them... so unexpected and such a waste. ;_;

You know how much I adore Kujaku - he's my favourite male clamp character - so I can't disagree with you. I love him even more for how he chooses to die even though it broke my heart. ~sighs~

Okay now I've got someone I could request a fic where Kujaku meets Yuuko to get into the past and give that sword to the Yasha family founder :)

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
How come the same people who did this amazing story with such a detailed drawing ended up doing something like Tsubasa?!
Exactly! And wow, does that ending break one's brain... Actually, when [livejournal.com profile] drachenaugen told me to read it, I thought I wouldn't like it, and I didn't really care a lot about it for the first half or so. Oh look, dead people. Oh look, more dead people. And then it got interesting. And then came the last two volumes and OMGWTF what just happened here??? O_O

Word on all the characters and pairings thing, except that I like Ryu a little more than Kujaku. (Why, Kujaku, whyyyy? He/she/it was a lot more cursed than you! T_T) And Ten was so sweet, I wonder where the hell did he get his personality with those parents (and it's a miracle he made it alive, really). I also liked the general whose name I can't spell who was Karura's friend.

I really should read MKR now... *goes to download Bitorrent*

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay now I've got someone I could request a fic where Kujaku meets Yuuko to get into the past and give that sword to the Yasha family founder :)

:O

Best. Theory. Ever!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God, I have no idea how to write Kujaku XD Damn your great plot bunny! *rises fist*

Kendappa is rather weird, so I don't really think she can be compared to anyone in X. Maybe it's the ending of their relationship, so violent and suicidal, what reminded me of S/S. Because apart from that, they have nothing to do with it, yeah.

Poor Ryu-oh... the cruel part about that was the fact he didn't expect his death at that moment and from that person. That's why it's the worse death of all, apart of Karura-oh's sister. Poor thing...

[identity profile] iridiscence.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Opino lo mismo sobre RG Veda. Ashura, Yasha? Blah. De hecho hasta me caen un poco mal.
Nadie como Kujaku, o la trágica historia entre Soma y Kendappa, o el adorable Ryu, o la genial Karura.
Y ese final es tan...fshfsjf que no hay palabras. Aunque casi lo que más me dolió fue lo de Ryu.
Y es cierto, pobre Tenou. Es la única persona medianamente normal de esa série. XD

Magic Knight Rayearth no me apasiona tanto en cambio. Y no, nunca he entendido porqué Clef/Umi era tan popular. No tengo ninguna OTP ahí, pero en cierto modo me gusta Ascot/Umi, aunque solo haya una pequeñísma referencia hacia el final.
El lío que se llevaban Lantis, Eagle y Hikaru nunca lo acabé de entender. Claro que aún me faltan tomos por leer, ya veré. ^^U
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the beginning is a bit dense. I had the first volume hanging around in some CD and never got to read it because a) how would I continue it? b) it was boring and confusing.

Ryu is adorable, really. Still, Kujaku's silly faces and Tenou's blushes won me over. You're right, it's a miracle Tenou was alive at the end, I'm still amazed evil!Ashura spared his life o_oU

[identity profile] miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Tranquila que no estás loca: hoy he dedicado demasiado de mi tiempo, teniendo en cuenta que mañana (hoy) tengo un examen, a leer la segunda parte de MKR ^^;; Dios, ¡Ascot! Es una monada, me interesó el personaje en la primera parte, pero en la segunda me ha dejado atontada. Ascot/Umi se ha convertido en mi OTP de MKR sin duda... son demasiado adorables (sobre todo él XD).

Y de RG Veda, bueno, teniendo la fanlisting de Karura no creo que deba decir quién es mi personaje favorito. Con el Kendappa/Souma me pasa algo extraño y es que la relación en sí me encanta y me parece maravillosamente llevada a cabo... pero no puedo soportar a Kendappa. Acepto que como personaje está muy bien construido, pero aún así... >_< Y aunque no pueda decir que para mi gusto Tsubasa sea basura (ya sabes, mi fangirlismo ciego), echo de menos a las antiguas y épicas angsty!CLAMP. ¿Volverán a tocar algún día los temas que trataron en X, TYO o RG Veda? Sólo ellas lo saben... (cabronas, dejáos de felicidad suprema un ratito, amargáos un rato y terminad X -_-)
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Mi reacción fue "Final feliz?! Después de todo esto! Qué demonios, si lo justo es que Yasha se quede velando a Ashura hasta que se pudra de asco. No me jodas, final feliz para RG Veda? Y de paso, a costas de Kujaku? T_______T No hay Dios, no lo hay..."

Kujaku se merecía más final feliz que ese par de señores del angst con remordimiento, leches.

Es que la muerte de Ryu, como lo menciono arriba, es una putada >_< Y es que vamos, la vida de Tenou es medianamente normal en lo que cabe XD No te quieren tus papás? normal. La gente te jala porque eres poderoso? normal. Te enamoraste de una lesbi? bueh, no es tan normal pero puede pasar. Tu hermano gemelo es un semidios psicópata de la destrucción y mata a tu mamá delante tuyo? vale, eso ya no lo es tanto ^^UUUU

Creo que pasa que el anime de MKR es más dado hacia algunos pairings. A mí Ascot/Umi me pareció muy mono luego de leer el manga :3 Pues mira, el triángulo yo no lo entiendo aún y me lo leí todo, así que... o_Ou
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
arrrgh, damn. I need to ask [livejournal.com profile] laurus_nobilis then. Or maybe [livejournal.com profile] elihice

Kendappa is totally weird. One of the most enigmatic clamp character with, err, Seishirou XD And yeah i know what you mean. It's very strange (then i used the paralellism between both ships in a fic already ;)

Yeah, I so wanted Ryu-oh to live... he had so much to look forward to. I think my favourite part of the manga is the annex bits about his mother and his father XD
I was glad to see him in tsubasa

See that's the good thing in Tsubasa. Plot sucks, as far as i could see, but yeah for the crossover goodness. That and KuroxFai of course ^^
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You write it then ! You have to ! *makes puppy eyes*
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, espera que no he dicho que Tsubasa sea basura. Es que es muy diferente a las cosas antiguas, y excepto por las veces que sueltan a Clow al azar es que realmente no te parten el coco mucho. Está ahí para que disfrutes el viaje y veas las monadas, no para que pienses o se te caiga la baba con el dibujo. Que si vamos a eso, XXXHOLiC no le llegará a la suela del zapato a Tokyo Babylon en la temática, y sigo siendo más friki de la primera que la última (con lo que me encanta TB, y mira por donde...)

Je, yo me pienso apuntar a Karura <3 Es que ella es genial ^__^ De hecho, me parece frustrante que sólo hayan fanlistings de 4 personajes de RG Veda. Argh, resistiiiiiir. Ah, qué bonita ilustración de Tenou. Oh, nooooo! Resistiiiiiir!

Ascot es muy tierno XD A mí me pareció muy lindo el Ascot/Umi. A ver si el chaval se pone las pilas y termina de decirlo XDDD

Además: Mokona los puso en el mismo carrito volador, es voluntad divina! XD
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Que si vamos a eso, XXXHOLiC no le llegará a la suela del zapato a Tokyo Babylon en la temática, y sigo siendo más friki de la primera que la última (con lo que me encanta TB, y mira por donde...)

damnit i want to understand that and can't. Thematic compareasons between TB and XXX-holic is something I crave.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't promise anything. You never know if Kujaku will cooperate.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Final feliz?! Después de todo esto! Qué demonios, si lo justo es que Yasha se quede velando a Ashura hasta que se pudra de asco.

Aaah, mi reacción exacta... Justo cuando estaba a punto de perdonar a Yasha porque después de todo, estúpido y obtuso y todo, estaba convencido de que era lo que tenía que hacer, va y sale con eso de "No importa que se murió todo el mundo porque estamos juntos!"

#"%$&#!!!!!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I was just saying that, if I am to be honest, Tokyo Babylon is waaay superior in thematic than HOLiC, even though I love XXXHOLiC slightly more. The only thing in common, I'm going to add here, are paranormal issues (and Kimihiro's recent Subaru channelizing.)

It's just that she's a huge TRC fangirl (to the point of working in fansubs and scanlations in Spanish), even though she also adores X and RG Veda.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say it's the only thing in common. Both us paranormal issues to deal with modern, day-to-day, realistic issues. I think the main difference (besides those tied to the characters and their backstories and relationships of course) is that TB centers around communication, otherness and empathy, while XXX-holic is about... something like addictions, balance. In TB one of the main idea is that only people themselves can judge their own happiness or know their own sufferings, in XXX-holic it is that people are to be responsible for what they want. Well... considering how much i've read of xxx-holic at the very least.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2005-04-22 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
all right ^.^ good luck for taming Kujaku then ;)
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2005-04-23 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Um. Yeah. I was sleepy when I typed my reply, you know... almost 1 am...

[identity profile] su-chan.livejournal.com 2005-04-23 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
joer! menuda maraton te debes haber pegado no? y lo digo por que leer de la pantalla cansa bastante @_@

Kujaku es adorable, es el mejor! Y estoy de acuerdo , RGVEda y TB son de la mejor epoca de Clamp, de cuando eran las mejores, ahora aun son buenas pero estan a poco de ser uno mas (unas mas) Pero eso tambien es por uqe los demas les han copiado el estilo (y no hablo del dibujo, el dibujo de antes de Clamp es insuperable) sino de las historias con compromiso, sorpresas, argumentos que enganchan, personajes que sufren mucho mas de la cuenta (FMA?)... ademas aun deben acabar X, para una historia que les qudaba de las de antes....

[identity profile] su-chan.livejournal.com 2005-04-23 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Mi reacción fue "Final feliz?! Después de todo esto! Qué demonios, si lo justo es que Yasha se quede velando a Ashura hasta que se pudra de asco. No me jodas, final feliz para RG Veda? Y de paso, a costas de Kujaku? T_______T No hay Dios, no lo hay...

hahahah, me he reido, has definido el final perferctamente, es, como el de TB, injusto y te cabrea, no es como quieres y ya esta, para que un final feliz? son los que te dejan enfadado los que recuerdas XD .... Lo mejor de CLamp creo que son los finales XDDDD ... esto me falta un final ... *grrrrr*

[identity profile] watermirror120.livejournal.com 2005-04-25 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh!oh! Damn that part! I wish Ashura didn't even killed Ryu-Ou. I agree with you, though. Kendappa is really really pretty. <3 xD
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[identity profile] gekidasa.livejournal.com 2005-05-15 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Tarde, pero bueno... yo tengo la teoría de que si uno quiere encontrar pistas para el final de X, tiene que leer RG Veda. Especialmente todo lo de Dark!Ashura (por algo debe de existir ese dibujo de Ashura y Kamui reflejados como en un espejo) y de que Taishakuten realmente no era malo (aunque ESO está por todo en lado en CLAMP).