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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2007-12-16 12:57 pm

Dorkness from the least expected places

YES, I'M DONE WITH YULETIDE.

Avatar 3x12: I'm not going to spoil it, but it was soooo dorky XD Very LOL to Zuko's fail expenses. And Toph is awesome.

FMA 78: ...Fuery! O_O That's gotta be one of the suckiest transfers in the history of ever. However, I don't think Arakawa will kill him off. Not in battle, at least.

Hohenheim >>>>>> everyone. He's Hagaren's very own Chuck Norris figure. And he's adorable, too. *fangirls the crap out of Hoho*

Al + Mei arguing FTW. As soon as I get my Photoshop groove back, I'll make a Mei icon with her fingers on her head with the text "Unagi!" *wonders how many people will get the joke*

I can't decide who's more of an asshole, Kimbley or the traitor chimera. Setting an army on Briggs and fuck the shit up the plot, which will bring potential DOOM on the whole country. Oh the other hand, setting the Homunculi on refugees, including sick people and little children. It's a tough pick.







And you know, I have a pet peeve. Seeing someone saying "oh, even though [main character's name] didn't appear, it was a pretty good chapter!" boils my blood as much as someone bashing it because of the lack (or existence) of him/her/it. It just sounds condescending. The fact people may think -even subconsciously- less of a chapter, episode, or arc if it lacks the protagonist is appalling. I mean, I've loved main characters in many series, but secondary and minor characters can (and will, depending of the fandom) manage to make things very interesting by themselves! I can understand finding it boring if you dislike the focus character, because it's happened to me a lot, but looking down on everything all the time if your hero(ine) is MIA? Graaah.

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I might be guilty of something like that. But when I say it I actually mean it as a compliment. Usually the main character is the main focus of the plot so if a mangaka, writers whatever can still write a great chapter without the main character that says a lot.

A good example is in Mushishi there are several episodes where Ginko isn't even prominent but I don't think less of those episodes because he is not there. Of course Mushishi is more about the side characters than Ginko so maybe that is a bad example.


As for FMA, Ed is my favorite character but I still loved this chapter. In fact I didn't even realize he was gone at first LOL. But I also adore every character in FMA. But we know Arakawa has a way with making me love her characters.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the thing is that I normally get into fandoms where secondary characters have a lot of focus and they're as awesome (or more) as the main characters. Hell, I always cheer with character backstories about others, unless I find them annoying. I think the FMA is extremely guilty of the "*whine whine* My woobie isn't this month either, even if this chapter is good that makes it suck!", between the stupid sector of the Ed fangirls and the stupid sector of the Roy fangirls.

Maybe it's me being weird. Even in the fandoms where my favorite character is the protagonist, I still love the occasional output on the rest of the cast. It makes them more human and slightly less plot device-y.

Then again, I'm so used to adore minor people I take what I can. In some fandoms we don't get to hear a thing about the non-popular characters or the ones the creators don't care much. In FMA I think we're very lucky to have all these awesome cameos and flashbacks.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"oh, even though [main character's name] didn't appear, it was a pretty good chapter!"

Yeah I have to second [livejournal.com profile] kirarakim in meaning it as a compliment. Well I'm sure some fans might not mean it that way, but I do.

The truth is in some canons I get bored when the main character(s) is/are not there. This is because if a canon isn't that good then the main characters are sometimes the only ones that have enough depth for me to care about (rest of the cast is cardboard). Generally I don't stick with a series like that for long. XD

A good canon makes the side characters as (and sometimes even more) interesting than the main ones so for me to say "even though Ed didn't appear, it was awesome," is a compliment on Arakawa's writing that she can develop a lot of interesting and complex characters and plotlines and not just one or a few like many creators.

And if she can continually create storylines I love where my favorite character is gone (I mean Winry was gone for like... ever until earlier this year) without my enjoyment being diminished, that also speaks of the strength of the series- that it's a great overall package (as opposed to just a couple characters being interesting to me).
Edited 2007-12-16 14:00 (UTC)
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know you do. But I'm so used to people overlooking my minor people, it's hard to say who doesn't mean it that way.

Generally I don't stick with a series like that for long. XD

Yeah, me neither. On the other way around, I do admit I've also dropped fandoms because I couldn't bother to care about the main character(s), and the other ones get the short end of the stick or disappear in thin air in the next arc before getting to become interesting whazzup, Bleach! Some mangaka should stick to a tiny cast, or just not doing massive shounen hi CLAMP! you sort of fail at shounenjumpness! go back to seinen and shoujo kthx...

I'm loving FMA and OP even though Ling and his bodyguards are gone (with good reason, they have nothing to do with the North right now), and Vivi was just a temporary character and her story had a closure. So it can be done, liking a manga plot with your favorite MIA. I'll squee if they're back, but since there's no reason I'll embrace the previous canon instead happily.

[identity profile] hamsterfactor.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's worse when people say "oh, even though [my favorite character who's not the main one at all but I love him so much I must annoy the crap out of everybody by complaining he's not in every fucking chapter] didn't appear...", because that's just silly and STFU-worthy. I especially hate when it's MY favorite character they're talking about, because they make my side look bad.

That said, Hohenheim = motherfucking hardcore. OMG.

And oh god, my poor poor Fuery :'( I just want to hug him. Arakawa is definitively not going to kill him off, but it's painful to see him like that.




I guess EVEN THOUGH ROY DIDN'T APPEAR, IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD CHAPTER!

lulz.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
EVEN THOUGH LING|GREEDLING DIDN'T APPEAR, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T FALL ASLEEP, WTF WHY? O_________Ô

Oh dude, she should just STFU. Every month is the fucking same with her OMG NO ROY OR RIZA BUT I GUESS IT DIDN'T SUCK THO.

Hohenheim makes Chuck Norris look like a n00b~~ The man has balls.

Fuery ;____;
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[personal profile] allegory 2007-12-16 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm guilty of the last part, but not too much. XD And kind of in the reverse way... Like, there are certain minor characters I look out for more than the main ones.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too ^_^ Even when I like the main character, I'm more happy about the minor people popping out.

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But Ed was there, channeled by his dad. XD I think that was an chapter made of awesome and I liked that manga!Rose wasn't as fucked up as anime!Rose. :P

Avatar was great too. I would love it if the frog-thingy hangs around. Or better! If it becomes you-know-who's pet. XD
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Crossover / Luke; he comes to town)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ed should wish he'd be channeled more often by Hoho-papa. He has better surviving skills, for once XD; I found manga!Rose really cute. I'm boggling at people bashing her because of her anime self, or worrying over Ed/Rose. Dude. NOT THE SAME PERSON. MOVE ON.

The frog-lizard-thing should totally be his version of Hawky X3

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2007-12-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll make a Mei icon with her fingers on her head with the text "Unagi!" *wonders how many people will get the joke*
I got it!!! :D But OMG, you just compared Mei to Ross.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
She did sort of sound like Ross explaining "unagi" when teaching Al!

Well, not really, but the finger thing reminded me a lot of FRIENDS.

You're talking to someone who iconned a Chapulín Colorado reference on Scar, you know...

[identity profile] hikusa-rgx.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fuery is not a man of waaaaar DDDDDD: Can't they just send him home? D8 Oh right, Bradley's intentions x[

And Hohopapa fskdfsd *wondering now where's he heading to now, still to the north I guess :O?* he's just so AWESOME and I want to hug Manga!Roze since she looks so cute~

And and and I'm starting to worry for the safety of the Winry-tachi right now ;_; that chimeraaaaa fkdsjlfds *shows fist* AND THE DRACHMA ATTACK FKDSJFSD *faints*


At this moment I think it wouldn't be that bad the "WHERE'S EDWAAARRRD" comments since well.. :O I think this chapter makes you wonder about where's him, we don't know if he's alright at all, and in other chapters this was not the case *at least I can't recall any alike to this case right now xDDD*

But yeah if the fangirls intentions behind the "Where is hiiiiim" are "I want to see him because he's so sexyy/cute/beautiful kyaaa" then uggghhh Dx
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Crossover / Luke; he comes to town)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was meaning mostly those fangirls. Maybe one of my other fandoms made me less tolerant of people whining for the lack of a character. Sure, it's worrisome the state of Ed, and waiting another month is evil, but it's not like we won't get to know in a near future.

[identity profile] hamsterfactor.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
BTW, ¿has visto quién está open for apps de repente? Fruits Basket: Kuramae Mine O__o
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-12-17 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, sí. Pero no creo que vaya a aplicar por ella. Prefiero esperar a ver si la chica cae en un troubles de Relashionships :O *cruza dedos de los pies*