taotrooper | Yes, you do that, it's healthy

You know, I'll be frank. I left the TRC/HOLiC fandom several months ago (I wish I could say the CLAMP fandom overall, but they might do an actual good manga one day). Why? Because it's not of my taste anymore and I slowly stopped caring about characters and pairings I liked, just like that. I never said it explicitly on LJ, because I'm not an attention whore and I don't announce it when I drop a series. Not even when it was the fandom I was the most active in the past few years. Several of you still like one or both of those series, and I want to respect that even when I strongly disagree right now about the quality of these manga.

I still used to read spoilers. After all these years, and following it from their very beginning, I was slightly curious about the closure despite of my now indifference.

But you know, guys? Enough is enough. When it comes to Tsubasa, I will follow the spoilers because it's practically done and they can't ruin it more for me. ~~And if the ending sucks, I want to read any possible wank.~~

When it comes to XXXHOLiC? After how much #186 physically repulsed me? THAT MANGA DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. I will definitely stop. Several weeks ago, I stopped caring about Watanuki and everyone else, and the self-revelation broke my heart. But in this chapter, I find him so repulsive I don't even want to know what happens to him anymore. He's dead to me because I don't see him as Watanuki anymore. Bitter, serious, cynical, stoic. This is character 'development', true, but it's not interesting or healthy in the slightest, and it's squicking me out. I don't even understand how everyone is creaming their panties over this; I have a megane fetish, used to find him a cutie, and yet I wouldn't find him attractive in those kimonos and Chinese clothes at all regardless. And I'm unable to care about what's happening with Doumeki, because I can't fathom how he (and anyone, really) approves and lets Watanuki live like an asshole for years. The whole concept of a timeskip where nothing changes whatsoever is bad storytelling and it's making me sick. This finally killed it for me. And guys, this was my favorite manga. I don't recognize the manga I loved anymore.

Why am I posting this, then? I needed to let it go, I suppose. And well, I know some of you friended me back from when I was in this fandom, and you might be bearing with my other posts for that. So if you want to defriend me after all this vitriol, or because you don't care about my posts for other fandoms, go ahead 'cuz I'm fine with it ^_^

PS: If CLAMP fuck up with someone related to Clow again, especially CCS characters, let me know anyway.
PS2: It's almost funny how they just backed up my crack headcanon that Yuuko had some of Clow's clothes in the store. Because I'm convinced that outfit must be his; it just... reeked of Eriol.

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If CLAMP fuck up with someone related to Clow again, especially CCS characters, let me know anyway.

this is my main fear and why i stopped reading TRC/Holic. woe.

But in this chapter, I find him so repulsive I don't even want to know what happens to him anymore.

My words exactly, except I wouldn't call him "stoic." He's acting like a coward--instead of facing life without Yuuko, he's shut himself into the store and cut off almost all contact with the world. This is the boy who was supposed to become a kind, brave, and wise person. This is the result of nearly two hundred chapters of character development.

I'm still going to stick with it, since I don't want to be left with the image of Watanuki as a parasite, but I understand your wanting to be rid of the whole thing. >:/

Thank you for posting this, though. It gave me a good space to rant about the chapter, since the main comms are filled with...well, yeah.

lmfao trc and holic are just so insane now. i still read it for a laugh, and it makes everything else looks amazing in contrast.

I still read XXXHolic and Tsubasa just for the trainwreck. Can't figure out what the hell is going on? That's okay! CLAMP can't figure it out either!

I'm convinced that at this point, they're looking at each other and saying "fuck it, let's just go get drunk" and writing the chapters while blitzed.

I wouldn't use the word "repulsive", but I agree very much with what

outou wrote above. After all the character development Watanuki's had, it's just sad to see him like that. There's no way I'm dropping this series, but I really hope that CLAMP won't let it end like this. In that case I'll be very disappointed with them.

I can only hope this is for the extra dose of angst, as, yeah, it does contradict every kind of character development Watanuki has had before, to not let himself disappear and become neither Syaoran nor Yuuko... Though I don't really get all the "OMG THIS IS SO BAD/DIFFERENT FROM BEFORE I'M DROPPING THIS" rage which has generally been going on in the TRC/Holic fandom lately. I mean, sure, series change as they're reaching their climax, and I'm not too happy about recent developments as well (TRC much more than Holic), but I'm pretty positive that at least they won't let Watanuki stay like this until the very end... I mean, raging at a series finale once the story is actually finished is fine, but before there's an actual conclusion I find it too early to pass judgement. (This doesn't really apply to you, but more to the fandom in general. I see so much rage. If I start disliking a series to a point of just not caring anymore, I'm dropping it. If I find recent development annoying but still liking the series/characters overall, then I wait until the plot got its resolution, and see then if it's still rage-worthy. But yeah, that's probably just me....)

Edited 2009-09-16 21:16 (UTC)

): I'm not going to defriend you! But I guess it makes me a little sad that some of the fandoms I associate most with you disappointed you so much.

And I'm unable to care about what's happening with Doumeki, because I can't fathom how he (and anyone, really) approves and lets Watanuki live like an asshole for years.

You know, this actually bothered me WAY more than the stuff about Wata. Because last chapter, when he was being a dumbass, I thought (and a lot of people thought, too) that the guy'd just kick Wata into NOT FAILING anymore. I mean idk Wata suddenly going back to his old ways, or having an unhealthy reaction to something... I've seen that already? So it wasn't that surprising (even if it's bad writing and CLAMP's crapping on his development, etc). But Dou's always been so stable and... not like that. Seeing him act like this seems so freaking weird. Same for Himawari & Kohane, and everyone else who up to a couple of chapters ago, were all OMG WATA LIVE AND BE HAPPY WAH WAH and now, apparently, spent four freaking years letting him be an idiot.

... That said, I'm also waiting for TRC's ending to make a full judgement, 'cause Wata shows up there and we know he made the decision after talking to the Syaos. I have this teensy little suspicion there might've been something explained there we missed in HOLiC (wouldn't be the first time that something important concerning Wata is explained in TRC e_e;).

I'll definitely make a note if something happens with CCS charas 8|b

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU. This is exactly what was going through my mind. UGH.

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