Kiri ☂ (
taotrooper) wrote2011-05-24 07:56 pm
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I'll be over here, vomiting
In my eternal search for well-written mythology butchery fiction, I might have stumbled into what might possibly become this subgenre's very own Twilight. Just the description really, really, REALLY annoys me in several areas.
→ They paid HOW MUCH for this?! To a newbie, no less. Man, either this woman writes like a god, or it's very Meyer-esque with Romeo-and-Juliet shit they recognize it's automatic cash cow. I lean to the latter, knowing the YA industry.
→ The Iliad in High School. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN.
→ Making a novel about a reincarnation of Paris/Helen, which is just terrible in general.
→ This then begs the unfortunate question: should she be with the boy she loves even if it means endangering the rest of the world? LET ME GUESS, IT'S GOING TO BE THE CLAMP WAY, ISN'T IT? Instant resolve not to read this ever.
→ pitched it as "a Percy Jackson for teenage girls"
...........................there is SO much wrong in this sentence.
Noonononono. No, dammit. You know what is Percy Jackson for teenage girls? IT'S PERCY JACKSON ITSELF, YOU ASSHATS!! Titular boy aside, this series is filled with amazing and BAMF teen girls to look upon! And there's a balanced male-female hero ratio, so there are many to choose from. And even more amazing? Many of them get love lives too! So being in wars and dating isn't mutually exclusive, and they don't get to risk the world for Soulmate Hottie like this Helen chick who just sounds kinda psychotic if you ask me.
→ They paid HOW MUCH for this?! To a newbie, no less. Man, either this woman writes like a god, or it's very Meyer-esque with Romeo-and-Juliet shit they recognize it's automatic cash cow. I lean to the latter, knowing the YA industry.
→ The Iliad in High School. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN.
→ Making a novel about a reincarnation of Paris/Helen, which is just terrible in general.
→ This then begs the unfortunate question: should she be with the boy she loves even if it means endangering the rest of the world? LET ME GUESS, IT'S GOING TO BE THE CLAMP WAY, ISN'T IT? Instant resolve not to read this ever.
→ pitched it as "a Percy Jackson for teenage girls"
...........................there is SO much wrong in this sentence.
Noonononono. No, dammit. You know what is Percy Jackson for teenage girls? IT'S PERCY JACKSON ITSELF, YOU ASSHATS!! Titular boy aside, this series is filled with amazing and BAMF teen girls to look upon! And there's a balanced male-female hero ratio, so there are many to choose from. And even more amazing? Many of them get love lives too! So being in wars and dating isn't mutually exclusive, and they don't get to risk the world for Soulmate Hottie like this Helen chick who just sounds kinda psychotic if you ask me.

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I swear, though, if I see one more "FOR GIRLS" or "FOR BOYS" tag on something, I am going to lose my shit in the worst possible way. How about, seeing as we're in the 21st century and all, we stop using gender demarcations? Maybe? Possibly? ...No?
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I don't think we'll get any of that soon, sigh. It's a bummer because it makes any kid who enjoys the opposite gender's stuff (or both boyish and girlish things) feel like a freak of nature. Most geek girls, when they grow up, at least cross the line and appreciate all stories despite of the tags. A lot of geek boys, however, might be uncomfortable or ashamed for watching My Little Pony or getting addicted to Robot Unicorn Attack. And geek genderqueers just be over there, refusing all binaries.
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Gotta love how it's somewhat okay for girls to do "guy things" but OMFG SO WROOONG for guys to do "girl things." Yay sexism!
Once again, I count my blessings that I have A) understanding parents and B) an awesome brother. When I was little, one day, we'd play with his Hot Wheels, and the next day, we'd play with my Barbies, and not only would we not see anything wrong with this, we were both equally content.
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That's pretty awesome! I was an only child until I turned 12, but I got any toy I asked for. At least half of them were girl-oriented (Barbies, ponies, She-ra action figures, baby dolls) and my mom still tries very hard that I behave/dress more feminine, but I did have some tiny cars and airplanes, and I happily asked for neutral toys like LEGO sets and video game consoles. Or at least *I* think of them as neutral because they're targeted to anyone; I don't recall girls in my school ever talking about LEGO and online gaming today seems so misogynist.
I did suffer from a short phase where I ran away from things that seemed to be targeted at boys. I wouldn't admit loving Aladdin because the title character wasn't a girl.
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Sadly, kids would probably say LEGO was for boys. :/ Even though I loved playing with it, too, and I bet I could find half a dozen girls I know who did, too, without even trying.
In all honesty, I can't say I'm surprised. I've run into kindergarten kids who are very adament about "This is for boys" and "This is for girls." The only reason I haven't run into younger kids doing that is...I don't substitute for daycare. But I bet they'd be doing exactly the same thing there.
So with all that pressure...well, who could blame you?
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Hmmmm probably, especially since people seem to equate adventures with boys. But really, it's a creative toy to build anything and you're not required to have testicles to join plastic bricks with instructions. Mind you, I might've had a couple of medieval castles and a pirate-era navy ship, but I also had generic buckets that included shit like little flowers and one of my oddest sets was a pink beach house with a swimming pool. Yeah, so manly~~
Education starts at home, and very few families let kids play like you and your brother. Of course, when they come to school most are already set on following their gender roles. That's always been society, sigh.
Nah, all my classroom (girl-only school btw) loved Aladdin and had Jasmine backpacks. I was just weird ever since I read a dumb review saying it was a Disney film "for boys". It's hilarious because I was SO tsundere for it. I'd openly say it sucks, and then at home I'd watch it once or twice a month! I was telling my family I was "teaching" myself to like it or something in denial like that. It was my guilty pleasure.
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Y UGH UGH A LO ÚLTIMO UGH.
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From reading that, I'm just going to pretend that this thing is Battle Royale and save myself from being angry.
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WHAT THE HELL.
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And even if they hadn't made that Percy Jackson Without Action Cooties allusion, it's just a checklist of shit that none of us both would like. Yuuuuuck.
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it's just a checklist of shit that none of us both would like. Yuuuuuck.
So, so true. Just from the blurb it looks like I'd be headdesking so much. And I like romance, but this kind? Yuck.
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Instead of hearing things like Ouran being "reverse harem", I want to see people calling harem shounen series as "shoujo for boys". Because it's what it is. Most moeblob anime is more shoujo than most shoujo. And the one or two guys are as Gary Stus as bad shoujo heroines.
Hey gals, did you dislike Paris? Did you drop the CLAMP fandom? YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS ONE. Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
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Instead of hearing things like Ouran being "reverse harem", I want to see people calling harem shounen series as "shoujo for boys". Because it's what it is. Most moeblob anime is more shoujo than most shoujo. And the one or two guys are as Gary Stus as bad shoujo heroines.
SILLY KIRI, DON'T YOU KNOW BOY IS THE DEFAULT.
I knooooow. DX And the worst part is that it could be interesting if it treated Helen and Paris as, y'know, a bad example. But even the summary makes it obvious that's not the case.
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LOVE HINA AND AH MY GODDESS IS SHOUJO, DAMMIT! Making the females in a romance into bland fanservice and give a male the lead = FOR MENNNNNNNNNZ.
I only read 5 chapters of The Iliad, but between Paris' epic fail at life and the Greeks' douchbaggery, I can't root any side of this fucking war.
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The one character I liked in The Iliad was Hector. I can't stand Paris and Helen and Achilles. Just ugh.
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(Well, I liked Patroclus too. But not Achilles. UGH, ACHILLES.)
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I haven't read enough with Hector yet, but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't like him.
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That really bothers me, because while I do understand feeling backlash about something that's been forced on you, making other people (especially young kids!) feel awful for being themselves is... sort of not the point of feminism at all. :|
I know nothing about Love Hina or Ah My Goddess, but I get you on the sentiment, yup.
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Staple oldish cast-of-one-(loser)-male-many-females romance shounen stories. Love Hina is particularly nasty in clichés because it is harem.
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*admires your icon* My daughter is playing the second game right now.
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lmfao i love how ya books for girls make the most difficult decision 'which boy do i like'
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But see, I have no problem with that as long as it's not the only thing going on for a female character. Just sticking with PJO, Annabeth DID go through "which boy do I like" (one was one-sided brotherly, but she still had her doubts... and to be fair with the bros, Percy too had his love triangle indecision.) The difference? IT WASN'T THE MAIN PLOT AND THEY WERE STILL KILLING SHIT WITH SWORDS ALL THE TIME. This one trilogy looks just trashy and boring.
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>Helen cheats on her boyfriend
>Lucas prefers hot chicks over smart/politically savvy chicks
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GAAAAAAAAH! brb going out and breaking things. *HULK SMAAAAAAAASH*
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...Oh God, this stupid book will be compared to R&J too, won't it?
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Romeo & JulietParis & HelenHelen & Lucas are gonna live happily ever after of course! One (or both) of them will die, but it'll be better 'cause they'll come back to life with the Power of True Love!!!11! :DDDno subject
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I liked both Verne and Alcott and I'm not a fucking fluke, I'm normal.
Relatedly - it's well-documented that girls relate to male characters as well, but little boys do relate to female characters - my brother's favourite Who characters? River and Amy! He even cares about Amy/Rory and he's ten, when he's supposed to go 'OH NOES IT'S ROMANCE, ICKY'. He read CCS and then Slam Dunk and he liked them both well enough.
I just... seriously, is it really hard to realize that people like what they like and that romance is not inherently inferior nor inherently girly?
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