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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2006-06-16 12:33 am

I did expect brain breakage, but not THAT much

*reads 119 translation*

WHAT.


What the fuck, CLAMP????!!!!

[identity profile] katharos-8.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This? This is good CLAMP. This is old CLAMP. This is destroy my whole identity/everything I believed I was/my whole world CLAMP. This is the CLAMP that leaves you waving the white flag of HUH?!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm all for brain breakage (no one in the CLAMP fandom is excempt from a certain degree of masochism), but I like it when they explain it better than this. It's still confusing as fuck.

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[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
GAH O_O

so, Clow!Shaoran was actually created for getting all the feathers?

and other!shaoran is Clow's descendant, and..

wait, Kamui said Subaru gave his blood to Shaoran?? o_O

and I would've thought Fei Wang would've said that things were not as planned, but "That witch interfered"

Mmmmm...

[identity profile] duchessa.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
wait, Kamui said Subaru gave his blood to Shaoran?? o_O
I think Kamui was talking about Seishirou...he said 'the hunter' or something along those lines.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
oh, I guess my brain it's not working correctly due to this chapter <<

but, yeah, I guess it makes more sense if he meant Seishirou ^^''

thanks :D
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I also understood it's Seishirou.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I *did* sort of call the "Our Shaoran is the fake one" thing months ago. It's the "Clow Reed's descendant" part that gets to me. I'm so confused that I don't even have the strength to be annoyed.

I mean... Clow's descendants are supposed to be from the CCS world... but we saw Older!Shaoran at the end of CCS, so that doesn't work. Unless he told Sakura he was coming back from Hong Kong and he was actually in a bottle somewhere.

So this means that there is a different Shaoran who is also CCS!Clow's descendant? How? Can there be two in the same world? Or did he go around spreading descendants across the multiverse?

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
actually a friend of mine foreshadowed a long long time ago that Shaoran was a clone. He had no memory, so it was possible.
Wow, she was so right.

And... I hadn't thought about all that 'being Clow's descendant' like this. You're right, how does that work? o_O

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know at least two or three more people who thought he was some kind of fake too.

But it's the second part that breaks my brain. I can't see a way out of this without either a plothole or a really lame cop-out. I hope they surprise me in a *good* way, but since they said in an interview that they're actively "dumbing down" Tsubasa I don't have a lot of expectations.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
or maybe this shaoran is not Clow-Clow's descendant but other Clow's descendant? O___o

or there's only suppossed to be one Clow?

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, when Fei Wang talks about Clow Reed, we know he's talking about THAT Clow. Because we've seen his picture on the background about half the times he gets mentioned.

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[identity profile] miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Me muero. Mi cerebro se funde. Dormir. Mañana pensaré.

[identity profile] singnovember.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
My favorite theory right now is that DARK!(or better yet, ORIGINAL!)Syaoran is so zombied-out because he's been seeing things through CLONE!Syaoran's body, so there may be a chance of getting the Syaoran we all know and love back.
But Geez, CLAMP, we all read Chobits. We all get it-you can love an inanimate object.

Clones and magic and right eyes, oh my!

Wait a second, it just accured to me-if only Clow's descendants can pull out their right eye, does that make Seishiro and Subaru Clow-babies?!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
What about Doumeki, then? O.o Does this make the Doumeki-is-Clow's-descendant theory valid? XD

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Then it'd be like Sakura and Shaoran all over again! Clow's descendant are more in-bred than the Blacks! :O

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[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait a second, though. I'm not sure about this because the wording is strange, but exactly what is what he "expected from one of Clow's blodline"? The part about removing his eye, or the part about... *dun dun DUN* copying his own heart? O____O

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[identity profile] singnovember.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Yuuko took out his eye for a price. Does that make HER a Clow-Baby?
Uch.

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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Curioso, porque yo dije eso, y a la mañana siguiente estoy hasta más enredada XDDDDD

[identity profile] miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
¡Wah, icon love! *se ha enganchado a Ouran -_-*

Aparte de que me retumba en el cerebro un "yo ya te lo dije", que [livejournal.com profile] clow_shirow me restregará por la cara cuando nos veamos (porque la teoría del clon y de que el real era el embotellado ya la dijo él hace bastante), no puedo dejar de fijarme en que cuando Yuuko dice "el sello del ojo derecho se ha roto", enfocan muy de cerca a Larg y se ve como su pendiente brilla... ¿recuerdas lo de piedra azul=sello, piedra roja=objeto mágico?

Pensar sólo empeora las cosas >_>

Y veo a demasiada gente muy convencida de que el Syaoran embotellado viene directamente del universo CCS, y que cuando se fue a Hong Kong porque tenía "algo importante que hacer" en realidad fue cuando Fei Wan lo capturó, y después volvió sano y salvo a Sakura "al terminar TRC"... ¿es mi memoria que me falla o Sakura al final de CCS dice algo como "¿ya no más cartas? ¿no más llamadas de teléfono?", implicando que aunque haya estado en Hong Kong han seguido en contacto y desbaratando esa teoría? (a menos que Kyle haya estado haciéndose pasar por Syaoran por teléfono y le haya escrito las cartas o yo que sé que fumada podría ocurrírseles XDD).

Este comment es espeso... creo.

[identity profile] miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Vale, acabo de comprobarlo, realmente lo dice. A veces tengo memoria y todo :P
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Lo del sello fue lo primero que me fijé cuando salió el raw sin traducciones. Porque cualquier aparición de Yuuko me hace prestar más atención y tal.

Es que ahí está el problema! Yo no me acordaba de las llamadas y las cartas, pero sí, entre más se piensa en ese asunto, menos sentido tiene que CCS!Li esté metido en la masa y más se contradice Tsubasa. Es desesperaaaaaante.

Fei Wang: Eh, tú, hazte pasar por el descendiente de Clow, para que la heredera de las cartas no sospeche.

Kyle: ¿Quiere que me haga pasar por un preadolescente enamorado? ¡Pero qué se ha creído! ¡Yo tengo dignidad y orgullo!

Fei Wang: Te regalaré un país cualquiera para ti solito.

Kyle: *toma auricular* Buenas tardes, ¿me pasa a Sakura? :D

Xing Huo: ...Idiota.

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[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
A mí tampoco me convence mucho que sea CCS!Shaoran, justamente por todo eso. Además, vimos a TRC!Shaoran siendo bastante más chico que CCS!Shaoran.

Pero por otro lado, sabemos que Fei Wang siempre habla de CCS!Clow.

Así que ya no sé qué pensar T____T

(A menos que, como dije arriba, Clow vaya dejando descendientes por todo el multiverso...)

[identity profile] su-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
SAbes? estaba esperando tu post referente a esto XDDDD No si al final Clamp siempre sorprenden ^_~

[identity profile] su-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
XDDDD ayer lei unas pseudo traducciones y sabia que te provocarian un shock ^_~ (pero la parte que me ha matado a mi estaba mal en ese texto @_@ )