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Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2006-06-16 12:33 am

I did expect brain breakage, but not THAT much

*reads 119 translation*

WHAT.


What the fuck, CLAMP????!!!!

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
actually a friend of mine foreshadowed a long long time ago that Shaoran was a clone. He had no memory, so it was possible.
Wow, she was so right.

And... I hadn't thought about all that 'being Clow's descendant' like this. You're right, how does that work? o_O

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know at least two or three more people who thought he was some kind of fake too.

But it's the second part that breaks my brain. I can't see a way out of this without either a plothole or a really lame cop-out. I hope they surprise me in a *good* way, but since they said in an interview that they're actively "dumbing down" Tsubasa I don't have a lot of expectations.

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
or maybe this shaoran is not Clow-Clow's descendant but other Clow's descendant? O___o

or there's only suppossed to be one Clow?

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, when Fei Wang talks about Clow Reed, we know he's talking about THAT Clow. Because we've seen his picture on the background about half the times he gets mentioned.

[identity profile] cardcaptorkiki.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I feel the same [livejournal.com profile] amewarashi-san. Completely. ._.;;

And I do have a question that may be up everyone's alley here. Clow Reed-san... is he the same one who was with Yuuko-san and made Soel-chan and Larg-chan / made the Clow Cards and pink wand / is Sakura-hime and Touya-ou's father? Or are there other Clow Reed-sans, too? I know I said this before, but again, we never heard much of Sakura-hime's mother come to think of it... Don't tell it's Yuuko-san!

It still gets you to think. Is there more than one Clow Reed-san?

I do remember in the Puff Interview that CLAMP stated that these are in different dimensions. They have the soul but are NOT the same as the CCS counterparts...

Which is almost even more confusing because...

Ah... *gives up for now* Let it be Wednesday soon!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Lessee, in theory, the former King of Clow is an alter!Clow. The creator of the cards, the one who made Mokona Modoki with Yuuko and the one Fei Wang is related to is the same one: Teh Clow Reed. Supposedly, the king is another guy.

Now then, there are theories, generated by the fact CLAMP never gives the king's first name in character guides. We don't know for sure this is a Clow, or a different Clow. A friend of mine thinks the King might be an older!alter!Eriol, for instance; that one is crack, but amusing crack she also thinks Kaho was the queen, making CCS!Touya/Kaho several levels of creepy. Some would like to think Clow Reed went to that world, became king, had his children with who knows who, and went back to his world: that would explain the Clow sigil in a certain splash cover and how Yuuko suddenly quoted the king one day, but it fucks the canon up in so many levels. Is it possible? ...I, um, guess, considering they're fucking CCS canon up as we speak. But it shouldn't be that way.

[identity profile] cardcaptorkiki.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
I would like to think that King of Clow and Clow Reed are two different people with the same soul. But then again, the "death" of the King of Clow could just mean he ran back over to CCS!World.

But then... which Clow is TRC!Syaoran-kun related to? That's what screws with me... ._.;

But thanks for your insight. :] It's possible as well!

I guess we'll just have to play the waiting game to find out. Darn you CLAMP... *curses out of love!*
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is, I think King of Clow's death was never mentioned in the series. I have to check if any character guide mentions if he's dead.

I'd prefer to think there are three Clows around, or that Clow Reed lived and had descendants in TRC!bottled!Syaoran's world, but it might be contradicted next week or next month or next year. Dammit.

[identity profile] cardcaptorkiki.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Nonono, you have a really good point there now that I think of it. But when I think to hard, it starts to contradict stuff. XD Crap!
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the problem with thinking, yessss. This is why it's not an usual practice in fandoms XD

[identity profile] cardcaptorkiki.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Now THAT made me laugh. XD

*adds chuu to her flist because your so darn funny*

By the way, I've really been thinking about this for a while... didn't I used to know you back on the now inactive TsubasaMB (http://invisionfree.com/forums/Tsubasa/index.php)?

Those were some pretty good days! XD
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think I was a member a long time ago. But I left like three months later because the members were too much of spammers and lunatics for my taste. I don't think I could call them "good days" because the board was scary.

I don't remember you, though. Actually, I can't really remember anyone from there. I never grew attached.

[identity profile] cardcaptorkiki.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You think so? I just remember a couple of members myself... like you and [livejournal.com profile] sakurakp-chan, [livejournal.com profile] vdshake-kun, and [livejournal.com profile] umidori-san.

I stayed until things started to get weird, too, and everyone started leaving. I really wasn't quite sure why or what happened though. I think it was something to do with the admin? But that was a LONG time ago and I can't quite remember. I was only one there for about a month or two myself, more of a watcher than a poster though.
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[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2006-06-16 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
Which is the reason why I'm all "...WHAT" at this chapter. Which Syaoran is the original, bottled one, exactly??!!

I hope they keep with Yuuko's intervention next week and make it so it doesn't rape the canons much.