taotrooper: It's a polar bear dancing the hula; your argument is invalid (Waka / pretty fly for a moon guy)
Kiri ☂ ([personal profile] taotrooper) wrote2007-10-24 04:31 pm

Color me exhausted

What a tiresome week. And I still have to survive today's lab classes, and tomorrow's dentist. I'm so, so tired I've forgotten to reply in so many posts, and I can't even say witty things to the arguments brought on my last post.

Oh the slightly brighter side, I've found ideas to work for one of the Yuletide requests. I'll just need to, um, reread all the manga and find the time to write it. I feel torn because I can either write a character study in a character who's awesome but rarely mentioned in fic (...I guess, I haven't poked the fandom enough), or write crazy postcanon shenanigans for a pairing that's lots of fun. Each option is glee-worthy, but the genfic is more fleshed out in my mind right now.

And now a quick rant about squicks, inspired by something that came up in the last post. I have squicks, yes. I have perhaps too many squicks if you think about it. But when it comes to my pairings, I discover there are a few that would make a lot of people roll their eyes or go WTF.There are several adult-in-kid-disguise/adult (or teen). There's that wolf/humanoid one. Right now I'm rereading The Two Towers at the moment, and I remembered I've always sort of liked Legolas/Gimli in the books. How come I don't find any revolting, some might say? Dude, I don't find them kinky, either! They don't turn me on, I never go looking for porn of these unconventional ones (in physical age or differences of species) because, as a matter of fact, I wouldn't stomach them either as they are. The issue here comes from the fact that at least I ship personalities instead of looks, and in my personal fanon these characters would love the other because of what's in the inside, not implying a physical deviantion. I'm a romantic, and prefer the idea of love/friendship turned love/inner trait attraction than, say, lust via fetish. That's how I pair people up, regardless of age, gender, race, species, position, whatever.

It's probably too cheesy, but I want to believe Kaho dates Eriol because he has a fascinating yet shy mind, and that Ushiwaka cares about Amaterasu because he admires her deeply and wants her to trust him, and that Legolas and Gimli travel together for a while because they have fun together in this innocent, orc-killing way and don't give a damn about the huge cultural (and height?) difference.It might be a naive and too open-minded approach to think in such an idealized way of loving, in a world wide web where porn is the reason to ship. But honest, I don't want to see any fanwork higher to PG-13 for these ships, really. I have other multiple normal ships to perv on, so I have no need for sexually-oriented pedophile or bestiality. Give me gen, give me platonic romance, give me anything else! I swear I don't pair people up for squick factors. I'm just too open-mindedly naive.

ETA: I forgot to say. But sexier stuff with adult!Eriol|Clef|Loki|Heimdall or human!Amaterasu? BRING IT, SURE THING.

Comment, and I will comment back with a picture of the fictional character that most reminds me of you. Then post the same in your journal.

(Warning: there are some of you I don't know too well, so I'll state it in your replies if I can't come up with anything.)

Meanwhile, this meme is weird shit XD I've been told I remind of Yuuko and Kaho. I DON'T SEE IT LOL. How can I be like Yuuko when I'm as mature and cool as a chimpanzee?

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I also thought of Yuuko. And AmeWarashi.

......... And I just thought of Winry :O

[comment for teh meme]
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Klavier / y halo thar)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I still don't see why Yuuko o_o I'm too angry to be her or something. When I'm fangirly I'm not even that happy/excited as she is.

I really have no idea why, but something in between her

Image

and Ioryogi. I don't get it either, no.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
8D Eeee I adore them both, so yay♥

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
But sexier stuff with adult!Eriol (...) BRING IT, SURE THING.

IAWTC!1!1!
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Waka / pretty fly for a moon guy)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, I should've added IC!adult!Eriol. Now I remembered there are tons of badfics with him legal as an "adult", but they tend to be unrecognizable shit. And by "adult", I mean +17 body and not the mind part, because they're all adults in that account.

[identity profile] zethel.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Human!Amaterasu <33333333333333333333

Also, Commenting for the meme ;D
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Yue / Die)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Human!Ammy is a tricky thing, because there are so many versions and some are just traumatizing (like blushing lolitas and the like). And even if she looks reasonable, an OOC attitude in the fanart can kill it. Of course, it's hard to mark what's OOC in a character who can't speak but... at least I hit the back button when she's acting like a cliché female in a hentai anime or something.

I still don't know you enough, sorry D: I have no idea.

[identity profile] zethel.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
no prob ;D

I'm going for Spanish on this one ;D

Dios, yo veo a Ammy como TODO menos una blushing lolita. Me la imagino bastante tomboyish y algo aérea... de esas personas que tienen un attention span de 2 segundos y luego te ignoran. De carácter fuerte y bastante independiente xD pero cariñosa a su manera. Siempre he querido hacer un fanart de ella humana, pero me da algo de miedo que precisamente se vea OOC.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's naive... but then again I think of those couples (well, the ones I know) the same way you do, so maybe we're just naive together. ^_^ On the other hand, like I said in your other post, I understand people who can't get past the visual squick, even if they rationally know the true reasons why the characters love each other. Squicks aren't rational.

I think fandom tries to get too rational sometimes, actually. We shouldn't feel the need to analyze why we like A but not B, why X squicks us but Y doesn't. Doing it for fun, sure, but feeling the need to explain it to others... nnngh. (I'm not saying that's what you're doing here, though! I just mention it because *I* felt the need to do it sometimes, but know I'm in the "I like what I like and don't care about anyone else" stage.)

Also: *comments*
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Eriol / not really jailbait)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
In real life, I feel you'd be like

Image

But in fandom stuff, like the one in my icon.

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, nice combination :D

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/arcadia_/ 2007-10-24 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
weird but FUNNY ♥♥!

COMMENTING |D

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I've noticed with the meme I quite often get stamped as characters I really openly like/use a ton of icons of/etc. I get called Kagome all the time, and while I am flattered that someone would think I'm like her (well as long as it's manga Kagome), I'm not in the least and usually the reasons given really don't even resemble me.

But comment!

I plan on replying to the tl;dr, but don't have time to do so before work. I need to leave in a few. I'll do so when I return.
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Waka / about to strike a pose)

Again, because I copy-pasted wrong

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That happens a lot. I also have the extra of having a character-based username who has a similar temper, so now I'm getting a lot of Ame Warashi replies XD I'll probably do that with some people without noticing. Okay, let me try here with you, without using Kagome or Winry or Hermione:

Image

Because she's fangirly and sweet, yet doesn't take crap from people, and loves animals.

Re: Again, because I copy-pasted wrong

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2007-10-31 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Aww thank you! Mei is kickass! ♥

[identity profile] miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You think you're innocent? Well, that's because you don't know anyone who almost can't stand to see her OTP kissing. Wait, you do. It's me XDD The most 'passionate' thing I can see between Sakura & Syaoran are things like this icon, even though I think they're perfect soulmates forever and ever and all that stuff. So sad -_-u

(about the meme, I immediately thought of Ame Warashi XD) *comments*
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Kino / Guns 'N Roses)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
If it makes you feel slightly better, I've never dared to read porn, not even with OTPs that are really hot. Not because I'm wary of porno like that or that I don't like it (I have no idea, honestly), but because I'm afraid the first one I pick is a badfic and I'll have wrong notions of sex for the rest of my... fandom life?

Something between Image and Image

[identity profile] telrunya.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That meme is weird, I've been told I'm like Ten from Doctor Who, w-what xD, to a girl from a crazy crack anime to certain lesbian from Bleach so... yeah. BUT I LIKE THE MEME SO, meme me. |D I will reply to you in a moment.

Hey, even if I like porn there are pairings where I only want gen. \o/ Totally I agree with you.
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Alphonse Elric / Mafia? / me)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL TEN AND CHIZURU XD

Oh man, I'm not sure, you don't strike me as anyone from fandom XD Let me try, but I don't promise resemblance...

A bit of Image maybe and, for some reason I can't grasp, Image

No, don't know why O.o

[identity profile] telrunya.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ Supongo que en mis momentos crack tengo parecido con un poco de ambos. XD

[identity profile] yaired.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*un nod-nod para el rant*

Estoy de acuerdc con quien dice Ame Warashi, pero también me recuerdas a Chiharu :P
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Alphonse Elric / Mafia? / me)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Image peeeeero más alegre :D

[identity profile] yaired.livejournal.com 2007-11-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
*subidón de amor propio*

Es que en el anime le pusieron muy serio :P

Hasta ahora recibo la notificación U_U

[identity profile] csakuras.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way. I have some ships that I just don't want to see porn of. And even for the ones that I would...um...sorta like to see porn of, I still ship them for personality dynamics and their interactions. Otherwise it just seems shallow to me. :/
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Eriol / envious of birds)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know. I suppose there are fandoms with 34734 characters, especially long shounen manga, where shipping for looks is more important than figure out which combination makes more sense, and people gets into it mostly for the smut hi Prince of Tennis. But for me the fun part is the interaction, as much or more than the chemistry. It's okay to have 100% shallow pairings and all, but I get more attached to my more serious ones.
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[identity profile] vehemence.livejournal.com 2007-10-25 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I never shipped anything in LOTR. No het, no yaoi, nothing. I mean, LOTR isn't really about romance at all, the books at least. It just doesn't read that way at all for me, there's too much stuff going on with the actual plot for shipping... if that makes sense. I loved Legolas' and Gimli's friendship... I just don't see it romantically at all xD But I would say that it's based on much more than mutual love of orc killing. I mean:
"Then Legolas repaid his promise to Gimli and went with him to the Glittering Caves; and when they returned he was silent, and would only say that Gimli alone could find fit words to speak of them."
And they presumably spent the rest of their lives together, and definitely left for the West together. I think they definitely loved each other, but in a platonic way, after being comrades for so long and learning so much from each other.

MEME?
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (AyamexMine / I was born to love you)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I really can't say anything because I'm not so knowledgeable on Tolkien. I don't really ship anything hardcore in that fandom, except perhaps Eowin/Faramir. I guess Legolas/Gimli is kind of like Frodo/Sam: some people see something going on there, some don't.

I don't know you enough, but I'd dare say Image

[identity profile] river-nile.livejournal.com 2007-10-25 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
*comments~* :D
ext_387179: A sea turtle swimming (Robin / accursed archaeology)

[identity profile] rainmage.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmmm, I'm not sure; you don't really hit me as a character. Perhaps a teeny bit of young Roku (sorry, didn't find pics)?

[identity profile] sha-chan.livejournal.com 2007-10-28 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Me pasa lo mismo con mis pairings. Yo creo que dos personas (o whatever) pueden estar juntas por como son, y no por como se ven. Claro que tengo mis pairings LOLRANDOM pero yo tambien soy una romantica empedernida, asi que me baso en lo mismo que tu. No creo que seas ingenua por considerarlo asi.. la gente en la internet es rara, punto O-O

Por cierto, parece que para todo el mundo este ciclo (o semestre) esta pesado x3 Espero que te este yendo bien!!